Great analogy.

Discussion in 'Vintage Topic Archive (Sept - 2009)' started by MikeV, Feb 26, 2008.

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  1. MikeV

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    A buddy sent this to me today.


    Father/Daughter Talk

    A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.

    She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

    One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

    Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

    Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'

    Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.'

    The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!'

    The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican party.'

    If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Republican and Democrat I'm all ears.
     
  2. Strangerous

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    this was on the forum beFore, but cant seem to Find it, amaZing what liberal professors with their pet projects will try to instill in vulnerable youth, MAN I SOUND LIKE NEO! :lol:
     

  3. Thats great lol I got send the same one a few days ago.
     
  4. Mike_AZ

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    Awesome analogy! Poor people are lazy and don't work hard.
     
  5. I don't think that's what it was meaning. I am a republican, and while I do well for myself now, I was far from it in the past. But not once did I ever think that those better off then me owed me anything. It's all the people who want to live off of govt programs that I don't agree with. Down on your luck, need help getting back up? Fine with me, everyyone needs help now and then. I bellieve this email/post refers to the people who don't even try and expects a check for that. I'm a white collared worker, but worked hard and long to get here and have no problem with taxes for some programs, so long as they arnt exploited.
     
  6. Strangerous, that's Effin' HILARIOUS!!!!


    Talking about white collar workers... Is the Military considered white collar or blue collar? :?:

    Owning a business, I was blue/white collar. I owned the company, but I was always out there working, scrubbin shoulders with my employees. I never had a problem getting it done when I was faced with a deadline.
     
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  8. Mike_AZ

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    But that is the analogy given. The democrats want to take from the people who have money (those who work hard), and redistribute it to those without money (those who don't who don't work hard). The analogy is a strawman argument. BTW I am also a Republican. It's just a bad analogy. You could skew it just as bad the other way. The one girl is getting a 4.0 because her rich daddy is giving the school lots of money and the other girl is getting a 2.0 because she has to work 2 jobs to pay for her college and doesn't have enough time to be able to study properly.
     
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  10. freedom

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  11. Mike_AZ

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    You are looking at this as the specific facts presented and not as an analogy. In an analogy you use something you can relate to, to represent something else. In this analogy the 4.0 student is meant to represent the people who money would be taken away from. and the 2.0 girl represents the people whom money would go to. The analogy is skewed, either deliberately or out of bias so that the people whom the money would be taken away from are represented by someone who is hard working and the people who the money would be going to is represented by someone who is lazy. As I showed in my other post, it can just as easily be skewed to other way in order to support another position. That is why the analogy is bad. This analogy might be a good representation of two particular situations that may occur, bot not of the situation as a whole as it tries to represent. It only portrays the extremes in order to make it easier to bash it. This is why it is a strawman.

    P.S. I agree with the notion that people with money should *edit*not*edit* be forced to give their money to people who have none or less money, but using bad analogies to support that notion only provides easy ammunition for the other side.
     
  12. freedom

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    So you are a Republican but you are a Liberal as well.
    My take on how you took the analogy was taken correctly.

    You took it as a liberal would and if you support the liberal/socialistic wealth distribution policy's of the Democrats running for Presidency, then a liberal you is.

    Good day
     
  13. Mike_AZ

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    Sorry about that I meant to type should not be forced to. I edited my post above to reflect that. I did not take the analogy as either liberal or conservative, just for what it is.
     
  14. Hmm, maybe we should let this one drop? I'm not sure if all of this liberal vs. conservative/republican vs. democrat stuff is really helping anybody here at this point. Just my opinion :)
     
  15. Let it all go. Laugh if you think it's funny, don't laugh if you don't think it's funny. I'm going to go ahead and lock it up so people and laugh or not, but no more bickering. Don't wanna see this turn into a big hoohaa that it shouldn't be.
     
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