Gun sales up

Discussion in '2nd Amendment' started by perotter, Sep 5, 2015.

  1. With the leftist yammering for more gun control, it isn't surprising that gun sales are up. There were 1,700,000 federal background checks done in August. This is an historic high for the month of August. Background checks set records in June and July also.

    I'd suspect that the increase in murders we've had under the Obama regime and lower prices for guns has also helped increase sales.

    ""Whenever there is a call for gun control, sales increase,'' said Larry Keane, general counsel for the firearm industry trade association National Shooting Sports Foundation.

    "These things are being offered up before the person is even arrested or before (investigators) even know what happened,'' Keane said. "For people concerned about their Second Amendment rights, the concern never goes away.''

    Virginia Del. Patrick Hope, a Democratic member of the state Assembly who proposed an expansion of background checks following last month's shooting deaths of two journalists near Roanoke, said the stockpiling of weapons represented an "over-reaction.''

    "I chose background checks, not because it would have prevented (the Virginia shooting) but because this would be easiest to pass,'' Hope said. "We will not be able to prevent every single incident. We need to do something.''"


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/04/gun-sales-new-legislation-sales/71703118/
     
  2. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    Panic buying is an overreaction, huh? The ideological adherents with who Mr. Hope is aligned have made no secret of their ultimate desire to disarm the citizenry. Every time one of them mentions "common sense" gun legislation, it involves increasing the cost of gun and ammo ownership and/or limiting what we can buy, all with the ultimate goal of stripping away our rights in their entirety.

    If he and his cronies want to "do something" about the problem, they can start by getting out of the way of the people's ability to defend themselves against the murderers who invariably carry out their activities when the police are not around. Furthermore, they can also make prisons into places where prisoners don't come out more violent than before.

    If no one has the stomache to increase the use of the death penalty, then prisons need to be true institutions of rehabilitation. That means that prisoners should be isolated from each other 24/7. Let them take their meals and carry out their hygiene inside of individual cells for the duration of their stays, and let their only contact be with prison officials. Meanwhile, force them to conduct online (via an internal server) educational programs, with successful completion of modules being one of the requirements for meals each day.

    This will protect them from developing the anti-social tendencies that come from being perpetually on the alert for potential attackers or rapists, making it a better environment within which to serve their sentences, and it will prevent them from running criminal enterprises from within the walls.

    After a period of time, they will recognize the officials as their sole means of survival, and they will become conditioned to recognize the link between good behavior and rewards. After getting out, their educational opportunities will have improved their employment potential, and they will be less likely to want to go back into the system.
     

  3. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    Good idea Think.....
    I like how the grabbers solution to their perceived problem entails crap that even they acknowledge won't fix anything, but they have to do something.....
     
  4. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    It just goes to show you that they don't care about solving a problem. They just want to disarm us.
     
  5. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Here's the answer:

    Come and "git some", barrel end FIRST!
     

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  6. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    Umm, isn't it supposed to be bullets first?
     
  7. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Point is, when you safely hand someone a firearm, you do not point
    it at them. :rolleyes:
     
  8. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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  9. ekim

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    That's when you hold up the sign that says, smile, wait for the flash!:rofl:
     
  10. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Studies indicate that the death penalty seems to have little effect on reducing violent crime rates. I will stipulate that it does reduce individual recidivism, but that, apparently, has little impact on over-all rates.

    Doubtless, this would have a measurable effect upon recidivism. But it would be prohibitively expensive with our current laws and inmate population. As a society, we're unwilling to pay for "universal healthcare" for people who more-or-less don't deserve the health problems they have. I can't see a willingness to pay that much for criminals.

    For some, maybe. But for those with prefrontal cortex issues?... Doubt it.

    Peace favor your sword (mobile)
     
  11. Think1st

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    The death penalty is too rarely used for any studies to be of any value. When we start seeing news stories like, "Police caught the bank robbers, yesterday. The execution will be live next week," then we'll be able to judge the effectiveness.

    As far as the prison solution that I described goes, it wouldn't necessarily have to cost much more than the current system does. The new pod-style prisons already keep prisoners isolated from each other. Just get rid of the yard time

    Of course, the big thing that would help reduce criminal behavior and prevent people from going to prison in the first place would be ending the subsidies that allow single mothers to live with all of their necessities being taken care of by the state. It used to be that single mothers usually had to give their kids up for adoption or get help from their families. That kept down the rate of out-of-wedlock births and also kept kids from being raised by unfit people.

    Lousy upbringing is ultimately what leads to crime in most cases, and incentivising more women to keep their legs crossed or go on the pill would cut down the number of people growing up in broken homes.
     
  12. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    The studies go back to Medieval records when what you describe was common. Doesn't make a difference.

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  13. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member


    You're correct that it won't deter the cortex challenged...... But it may deter the borderline criminal....... And it's also readily apparent that the current system isn't cutting it....
     
  14. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    Yeah, but in Medieval times, people were executed because they accidentally looked at a noble the wrong way or were accused of witchcraft. You can't speak of crime deterrence when people like the Lannisters were busy making criminals out of innocent people.:p
     
  15. undeRGRound

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  16. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member


    Fake as they come!