First, I'm a strict constitutionalist. Nothing I'm about to suggest is, IMO, constitutional for the federal government to impose. States maybe, but not the feds. Second, nothing here will solve any of the gun violence problems this country is dealing with. However I do believe these are common sense rules all legal firearms owners should be required to live with. And they would reduce some gun crime by drying up this source of weapons. I'm starting this thread to share ideas about what we as responsible owners should hear from each other. On Jan 1, 2015 it became illegal to make a face to face gun transfer in Washington state. I'm not sure of the Constitutional standing of this law, but I support it. It won't stop criminals from transferring guns to each other, but it will stop an innocent seller from inadvertently transferring a gun to a lying criminal. This is the "gun show loop hole" closed. I don't like the term "gun show loop hole" because like "assault weapon" It's a leftist invented lie. There is no gun show loop hole. What's illegal on the streets is illegal at the gun show. I don't support this law to appease anyone either. Phuckers the left. I support this law because it's good for law abiding gun owners. It gives me peace of mind to conduct my private transfers in a gun store instead of a parking lot. Our law also allows the transfer of guns to immediate family members without a background check. I have no problem with a law that requires every gun owner to secure their guns, including criminal liability if they fail to do so and their gun ends up being used to commit a crime. This one is sticky for me though for several reasons. First to be as effective as possible it would require registration, and I do not support that. So it would require LE to prove where the gun came from by some other means before bringing charges. Second, again to be most effective, it would include a requirement to keep any uncarried gun locked up in an approved fashion, safe, locker, what ever. The only way this could be remotely Constitutional would be to provide public funds for those who can't afford security. This one is not about stopping mass shootings either. It's just good common sense that most of us already exercise. It keeps the kids away from our guns. And a family member who temporarily flips out from just grabbing a gun without thought. Like I said the second one is sticky as hell and I can't work it all out and maintain my beliefs. But it would have prevented the mass shooting at our high school, one mile away, last year, the school my kids went too. This thread is for reasoned debate on the subject. That's something that is often in short supply at HPFF. So let's hear your opinions.