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Discussion in 'Hi-Point Carbines' started by raelayotte, Aug 7, 2014.

  1. raelayotte

    raelayotte Member

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    Is the carbine a hand gun or rifle by law
     
  2. it is a rifle. NO question about it.
     

  3. cktvt

    cktvt Member

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    What he said.
     
  4. panoz77

    panoz77 Member

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    Are you talking generally or a Hipoint specifically? Hipoint carbines are rifles, how could they be anything else if not modified?
     
  5. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    If it's got a stock it's a rifle.
    Cutting some corners here with ATF definitions but that's pretty much it.

    What maybe got you confused is the term ' pistol caliber carbine ' or PCC
     
  6. cktvt

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    Careful SWAGA, the lines are starting to blur. ATF now allows an "arm cuff" on pistols, with two wings or flaps that ride down on reach side of the shooter's forearm, off of an extended rod, with velcro straps to secure it. These arm cuffs are typically used (or misused) as ersatz shoulder stocks, thereby turning pistols into short carbines that are still legally pistols. ATF knows perfectly well that they're allowing this loophole, but so far, they're turning a blind eye to it.
     
  7. planosteve

    planosteve Lifetime Supporter

    ATF interpretation scare me. What if they change there mind?
     
  8. cktvt

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    Time to get out the SAWZALL. :eek:
     
  9. panoz77

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    They have issued letters in regard to this question in particular, I would think based on that, I assume previous would be grandfathered.
     
  10. cktvt

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    In all seriousness, I agree.
     
  11. Rerun

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    Or the time, back in the 1990's, the ATF declared that Calico's were now classified as 'Machine guns' because they had large capacity magazines...

    Fortunately, the Courts determined that Calico's were NOT 'Machine Guns' as they were Semi-Auto firing weapons.

    American Citizens dodged another bullet then!

    eldar