I got a 1095 the other day and took it to the range to try it out. This is the first gun I've purchased. I started out at 3-5 yards to get a feel for it and noticed that it was consistently hitting low. I tried tweaking the rear sights but the point of impact stayed the same. I raised the front sight post all the way up, and it seemed to help a little, but I was still consistently about an inch and a half low. I tried the rear sights again and decided to just crank them all the way. Didnt notice a change. Thought maybe I was adjusting it wrong and cranked the sights all the way the other way (I've had the rear sights all the way up and all the way down). Still not really noticing a change in my point of impact. I was getting a good solid group, nothing weird to the left or right, just consistantly lower than where I was aiming and for the life of me I couldn't think of how else to adjust the sights to improve the situation. I wanted to move the target further out and get the carbine set for at least 15-20 yards but I was discouraged by being unable to get it sighted correctly so close. I went through a 50 round box of magtech and barely noticed a difference in where I was hitting. Can anyone help me understand what was wrong? Am I doing something incorrect? Is there something I'm unaware of that could help? Before I bought the carbine I had done some research and thought that I came across a video or post somewhere where someone had said they had issues with their 1095 shooting low and they filed the sites down but now that I own the rifle I cant find the source so I'm unsure if that was correct or not. I'm also considering scrapping the irons altogether and just going with a straight red dot, but I wanted to get some feedback first
Help with 1095 Irons
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Well number one you're WAY too close to sight in. At 15ft you could move your sights a mile and still only see a difference of an inch. Also, at that close of a range, your sight height over bore, will likely be how low you've been hitting...
Re-center your sights and START at 10-15y.
Minutes of Angle(MOA) are calculated by using the formula: (yards to the target x 1.047)/100, and if every click is, we'll say 1/4 MOA, at 5y you're looking at an MOA of .052" and each click will only move you .013".
40 clicks will only move you .52" at that range. As compared to 10" at 100y.
Use the FO/RS, Luke. Front Opposite/ Rear Same. If you want to go right, the front sight goes left or the rear sight goes right. If you want to go up, the front sight goes down or the rear sight goes up.
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Re-center your sights and START at 10-15y.
Minutes of Angle(MOA) are calculated by using the formula: (yards to the target x 1.047)/100, and if every click is, we'll say 1/4 MOA, at 5y you're looking at an MOA of .052" and each click will only move you .013".
40 clicks will only move you .52" at that range. As compared to 10" at 100y.
Use the FO/RS, Luke. Front Opposite/ Rear Same. If you want to go right, the front sight goes left or the rear sight goes right. If you want to go up, the front sight goes down or the rear sight goes up.
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A: Do what Rachgeir said. You are too close. And after you get close to the center at 10-15 yards, decide if you want to go out to 25 yards. (I wouldn’t, the 15 yard zero is good, IMHO.)
A 15 yard zero is about 1” high at 50 yards, and might leave you about 4” low at 100 yards.
A 25 yard zero is about 1/4 inch low at 50, but 6.5” low at 100. So “better” at 50, but “worse” at 100.
Then…..
B: NEVER do what YouTube says, until you check here.👍
A: Do what Rachgeir said. You are too close. And after you get close to the center at 10-15 yards, decide if you want to go out to 25 yards. (I wouldn’t, the 15 yard zero is good, IMHO.)
A 15 yard zero is about 1” high at 50 yards, and might leave you about 4” low at 100 yards.
A 25 yard zero is about 1/4 inch low at 50, but 6.5” low at 100. So “better” at 50, but “worse” at 100.
Then…..
B: NEVER do what YouTube says, until you check here.👍
Massive thank you for the 101. It seems obvious to me now and I feel dumb about it but at least i've got it worked out. Use the FO/RS, awesome advice
Why does the 25 yard zero bring you closer at 50 yds but put you further away at 100?
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A. Now you'll never forget the FO/RS and be able to teach someone else how to sight in irons.
B. Parabolic trajectory due to the constant of gravity + the angle of attack. Basically, any object sent down range without additional in flight propulsion begins falling as soon as it leaves the source. You'll need a greater angle to overcome the distance between your bore and the height of your sight at the shorter range of 15y as compared to the lower angle required to sight in further away. It changes how high or low the bullets path intersects the target at a given range.
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