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The International Monetary Fund said its executive board endorsed the sale of 403 tons of gold, worth an estimated 13 billion dollars, to boost its lending capacity to poor countries.

The IMF said in a statement the sales would be "in a volume strictly limited to 403.3 metric tons, with these sales to be conducted under modalities that safeguard against disruption of the gold market."

When you take this, with the debt ratio of the US. The fact that all through his presidency the IMF was telling Bush that it was calling in it's markers to look over the books of the US treasury, and the Federal Reserve, it could easily be a situation where the US is going to take it's first crash loan from the Twins of Evil.
As part of the assessment, the Fed, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), the major investment banks, mortgage banks and hedge funds will be asked to hand over confidential documents to the IMF team. They will be required to answer the questions they are asked during interviews. Their databases will be subjected to so-called stress tests -- worst-case scenarios designed to simulate the broader effects of failures of other major financial institutions or a continuing decline of the dollar.

Now, we already had the stress tests. Remember. How they were just a routine set of standards tests to make sure things were running as they should be???

If you don't already understand the World Bank IMF conundrum, I'm not gonna be able to break it down much. World bank is where despots get their loans. The IMF is the arm of the World Bank that cuts off things to the despots when they don't at least make excuses why they aren't attempting to payback the loans.

Once a country is in the ping pong game between the World Bank and IMF, they are essentially run by those institutions.

Here is the most important Quote in the whole IMF structure. "Set up as a voluntary and cooperative institution, the IMF attracts to its membership nations that are prepared, in a spirit of enlightened self-interest, to relinquish some measure of national sovereignty by abjuring practices injurious to the economic well-being of their fellow member nations."

This isn't conspiracy stuff. This is cold hard fact. This is the page from IMF .org that tries to explain the difference between the IMF and the World Bank. http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/exrp/differ/differ.htm

You have to understand that the US has been the largest contributer to the World bank, for it's entire existence. But the US isn't a Member of the IMF other than a charter supporter. We don't owe the IMF yet!!! YET!!!

The principle behind the world bank is literally control over a nation by putting the nation into so much debt that is has to give over some aspects of it's sovereingty to the IMF so that the trade and monetary systems can be regulated based on the benefit of that countries global trade partners.

Look at the recent information about CHina. If CHina cashed out of the US, we wouldn't exist as a country. We can't pay out the bonds that China owns.

The IMF however could make immediate cash payments to the chinese, the chinese currency wouldn't have to change agains the dollar, because the dollar would gain value after we sell off the rights to control it to the IMF so the IMF will hold CHina at bay.

These giant multi national control oriented banks, are the types of ultra debt control models that current corporations aspire to be like.
When you own someones debt, you can exert influence on them by simply making the debt less immediate, and at the same time adding new services and funds to the existing debt while making it look less painful.

Imagine a global rent to own system. But every month the RTO place sends you a new "something", just adding pennies to the bill. Well as long as your bill is expanding, and they are adding new things, you can never really OWN anything. You will be constantly paying the lowest end of the rent. If they say it's time for you to upgrade your new TV because Sony needs to sell some more tv's, you can't say no.
If you say no they say, OK, we just need to close out your account. Can you pay in full today, or do we take away your entire life tomorrow???

So you say, actually, when can you deliver that new TV? If it's just an extra penny a month I can deal with that.

And that is the loss of control over your life.

Forge the UN. Forget Obama.The world bank, and the IMF has ALWAYS been the biggest threat to the world as we know it. And all through George Bush jr's run, they have been tightening the noose.

To me, I always wondered if the whole war and oil issue was just a way to create such a deficit in the US, that the US Federal Reserve, would be forced to turn to the World Bank, or the IMF. With all the added stuff this year, we just might.
Then we aren't the US anymore. We are owned by the elite money men of the world, even more so than we already are.

That's a bad sign. if your into that sort of thing.
 

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Look at the recent information about CHina. If CHina cashed out of the US, we wouldn't exist as a country. We can't pay out the bonds that China owns.
Put a high tax(100%) on cashing in t-bills, etc. Of course, we'd have to immediately reduce the number of nucs we have in stock.

This is a joke.
 

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Seriously, we are in big $ trouble. It's going to by a difficult mess to get out of.

I also believe that a large part of the last number of wars we've been in have been - in part - to keep the monetary system from collapsing.
 

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Seriously, we are in big $ trouble. It's going to by a difficult mess to get out of.

I also believe that a large part of the last number of wars we've been in have been - in part - to keep the monetary system from collapsing.
In my opinion the wars after 2001 have been to increase the debt to such a point that financial collapse is unavoidable.

The wars we've waged haven't made us any richer. They've just drastically expanded the national debt on a weekly basis, instead of an annual basis.
 

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I don't think the wars are the only thing that have been setup to increase our debt, I think that most of what the gov't is doing is to increase our debt. It's like they want a collapse.
 

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I don't think the wars are the only thing that have been setup to increase our debt, I think that most of what the gov't is doing is to increase our debt. It's like they want a collapse.
They want a crisis, translated they want every one hurt except them and then use said crisis to grab more power.

Well now that we are monetizing the debt its all but assured.
 

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Yeah I hate to say it but the Obama administration could very well be the end of the America that has existed up to this point. Could be the beginning of the end for all nations, as we understand them right now.

But it won't be some kind of socialist agenda that he's following. It'll be the one world government idea popularized by H. G. Wells.
It wasn't really his idea either. From Hitler to Napolean to Hannibal all the way back to Jesus, all these figures dreamed of a united world of peace and harmony. Sooooo, it's really one of the core ideas of the human struggle.

NEW WORLD ORDER 1940; "when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we [must] bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people."

If you wanna get your tinfoil out, look at that statement, then go from that to Bretton Woods, then WWII, then everything that has happened since then.

Than ask yourself if the people posting on these forums should be counting themselves as the generation or so of malcontents who will sacrifice themselves in protest to the unstoppable beneficent world system.

It's been an ideological goal of most world politicians since the late 1940's. The United Nations World Bank, and IMF can be looked at as the literally corner stone of a new World Social Democracy.

Kind of freaky. But at the same, all of our loftiest human goals, including Heaven are perfect utopian constructs. So why wouldn't the overall goal for the dirt side of it be similar?
 

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As in all arrogance the idea it is a fait accompli for world utopia only increases the death toll of the inevitable failure of said utopia. It is not us that rebel it is them for we know the matter for what it is and the futility just as the founders themselves knew tyranny would devour the entire world's liberty and remain famished.

And gladly, it would be a good death.
 

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as the founders themselves knew tyranny would devour the entire world's liberty and remain famished.
That's pretty darn eloquent.

And no that's not an insult.
 

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as the founders themselves knew tyranny would devour the entire world's liberty and remain famished.
That's pretty darn eloquent.

And no that's not an insult.
19th and early 20th century literature, even text books, have such style with words that has been lost. I really do envy the way they wrote. Lovecraft was simply amazing but in general it is was the accepted manner.
 

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8292736.stm

Now we can build a picture. With these three links, of the end of our way of life.

The IMF is releasing tons of gold for sale.

A consortium of countries is removing the US dollar as the trading standard for OIL purchasing, replacing it with a "basket of currencies" including dierct translation of current market value gold, for unrefined oil.

Gold prices reach an all time high.

So this is why the IMF stated that releasing the gold onto the market wouldn't collapse the gold market.

They knew they would be releasing gold into a market where everyone would be buying, thus driving up the value of gold, and the value of oil, all of which will be more in control by countries in the Middle East, and China.
 
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