9mm carbine new $169-209 w box and papers, two had nice scopes. Used 9mm carbines and I loved this, very used, $229-259, no box, no papers, showing a lot of wear and tear. Several dealers had all the Hi-point pistols on display on the nice white box's. One had plastic Hi-point pistol cases with his for the same price as the white boxed pistols. This show had the most HI-points on hand of any I have been to. It was great to actually see and handle them side by side.