High Capacity Mags

Discussion in 'Hi-Point Carbines' started by thingmeister, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. thingmeister

    thingmeister Member

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    So with the release of the redball 20 round mag for the 9mm and the 28rd korean 45 drum, options are starting to expand for hicap HPs.

    I am partnering with a local shop that wants to really run with HP and tacticool the hell out of them. Make them 3-gun competitors.

    Im going to start doing some magazine designs for hicap stick mags. my question to all y'all is what size do you think is worth making? 50rd 9mm? 20rd 45? more? less? whats the sweet spot on capacity?
     
  2. dxr

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    standard for most weapons tends to be 30. i feel like the biggest issue with the HP is it'll put a lot of extra weight on the back of the gun, and being single-stack, could quickly become a nuisance.
     

  3. Dane

    Dane Supporting Member

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    I would like to see those other Asian drums working in the 9 and 40!
     
  4. Something about putting a whole box of 9mm in a drum seems oddly satisfying..

    .. I'm going to need more ammo.
     
  5. thingmeister

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    I'm going to be prototyping a surefire style stick mag. More rounds without the bulk of a drum or length of a single stack stick.
     
  6. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Assuming a couple of things, because I did a detailed teardown and
    measuring of the carbine internals, I think you will find (or already know)
    certain facts:

    1. The grip is thick enough to be widened out internally, but most will not want to go that far...
    2. ...which leaves you with adding the double (or triple) stack section below the grip
    3. knowing this, I'd suggest at least a triple stack section and use the Makarov style high-cap mechanism
    4. ...and I would limit the added length to approximately the promag size
    5. ...as the Redball mag does look like it could become an obstacle for any serious use other than on the range.

    If you would tackle the lower portion of the grip, and hog it out for a
    DS design, I was thinking about adapter tops for the cheap and easy
    HAPPY STICKS that are made for Glocks :D Plus linked snap caps.
    Then you can make a "Minus One" configuration that has a void for
    the first round instead of ramming the follower all the way to the top!
     
  7. Dane

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    Could always offer a different stock that would allow double stacks like glock to be used. People more apt to change a stock out than actually mod something.
     
  8. The way the receiver is designed, I believe a Makarov style high-cap mechanism at the top of the mag would be necessary.
     
  9. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    I'd suggest working the 9mm, if over 20 rounds, and the 40 S&W, as it
    gets NO Love, and it would be easily adaptable to the 45 ACP. Everyone
    with a 4095 would grab a hi-cap (IMO) and lots of folks have them. A
    little better downrange ballistics and the added rounds would be sweeet... ;)
     
  10. SWAGA

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    15 rounds on the .45 and 20 on the 9mm, otherwise it will start looking really...dumb...:D
     
  11. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Yes, BUT he is talking about what would look like the length of the
    ProMag, with more capacity than the dog-pecker mags ;) :rofl:
    Highly Preferable, in my book. :D
     
  12. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    Glock 9, Glock fordee, Glock 9, Glock fordee, Glock 9, Glock fordeee