big thanks nicad
capn',so do they work well in your carbine?no ftf's and the like?
seems like i read somewhere on here that hollow points
would just come all apart on contact and not peenetrate at all
how many jugs did they go through and where did you findthem?
i might have to do a little less than scientific testing,sort of
quasi mithbusters and silicon wolverine/.22 test type of thing
what do you think?