holographic sights

Discussion in 'Optics / Sights / Lasers / Lights' started by RedBird94, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. RedBird94

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    I was at a gun show today. A vendor had some really nice holographic sights. 4 different projection shapes, red or green. They look like the would work well on a carbine. Anyone tried these? I have a 4595, trying to decide between a laser (green) holograph, red dot, or tactical std style scope. Looking forward to your input.
     
  2. RedRaptor22

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    Depends on what kind of shooting you plan to do. for farther out accuracy nothing will beat a scope.

    For up close nothing will beat a good set of irons.

    For hurried shooting or panic situations go for a red dot or similar.

    Personally for me all of my precision work guns have a scope, all of my up close guns have irons, and dual purpose ones have risers that let me use either/or and my panic gun has buck shot so there is no need for sights.

    I don't do speed shooting at all really.
     

  3. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    For the ranges at which the carbines are effective, a red dot or holo sight should be more than sufficient. Classic Firearms has a couple of inexpensive holo sights from NC Star and BSA that look pretty decent. I haven't seen reviews on them, but the stuff that these guys sell is usually pretty reliable. They don't seem to sell things that are going to disappoint their customers.

    https://www.classicfirearms.com/bsa-multi-retical-electro-sight-pmrscp
    https://www.classicfirearms.com/ncstarsightd4b

    Try one of these as your starting point, or you could go with a TRS-25 red dot site. They were on sale at PSA for just $59, but they aren't available for that price from them, right now. Keep checking their site, though, and you should see it back on their deal list.

    They do have a different Bushnell model for just $69 and change right now. It is at the below link:

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/13949/category/189/
     
  4. mn_doggie

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    Redbird94 wrote:

    I was at a gun show today. A vendor had some really nice holographic sights. 4 different projection shapes, red or green. They look like the would work well on a carbine. Anyone tried these? I have a 4595, trying to decide between a laser (green) holograph, red dot, or tactical std style scope. Looking forward to your input.


    Unless they were made by EOTech they were reflective/reflex sights with an image reticle (rather than a dot) and not true holographic sights.

    A reflex sight projects an image ( a dot, cross hairs, circle, etc) on the curved clear lense. The holograph sight shines a lazer on a hologram that contains the reticle.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflector_sight

    Major difference between a true holographic and a reflex has to do with parallax. The reflex sight will have more.


    (Yes, reflex red dots, even my Aimpoint Comp M2 have parallax, not much, but it is there.)

    Holographic weapon sights are similar in layout to reflector sights but do not use a projected reticle system. Instead, a representative reticle is recorded in three-dimensional space onto holographic film at the time of manufacture. This image is part of the optical viewing window. The recorded hologram is illuminated by a collimated laser built into the sight. The sight can be adjusted for range and windage by simple tilting or pivoting the optical window

    (Bushnell or maybe Burris, had a holographic sight many years ago and some of them are still around in the used market)

    Enjoy the lower cost reflex sight, just realize that it really isn't holographic. If you ever get a chance to look thru an EOTech you see the difference. One of their models has been selling for just under $400 lately.
     
  5. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member

    I'm looking to put some type of optics on my MP15-22. I came across this and thought it would work well on a HP carbine too


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    http://www.amazon.com/TacFire-illuminated-Reticle-Tactical-Adaptor/dp/B00L2Z8S5Q/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1421025205&sr=8-9&keywords=tactical+scope

    But that goes for about $125, and is on the cheaper end. And the reviews aren't great.

    So, I am thinking of making my own.

    I started a thread here, didn't want to jack your thread. But I have been meaning to start one anyways, and figured it may be a good solution for you too
     
  6. RedBird94

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    I had just looked at a similar unit to the Tac Fire. that would cover most situations. I can't see the center of a bulls eye at 50yds so some magnification would sure help. The red dots I have tried, the dot is so big that it covers the bull. So again, I'm just guessing about being on target. Same as the iron sights.