How about a Wood stock 40cal hunting carbine (forward mag well)

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guncats

Discussion Starter · Oct 7, 2009

Will be nice to see a wood stock "non-pistol grip" hunting carbine. How about a 5rd-mag 40cal in laminated stock? It will kick Ruger PC40's expensive a$s.

Maybe somebody will DIY one by machining a laminated Ruger 77 stock on a bridgeport.....

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Silicon Wolverine

· #2 · Oct 7, 2009

wood stocks wont work on a HP been tried by more than a few around here over the years. simply not feasable.

5 round mags you can make yourself with a couple screws.

SW

guncats

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 7, 2009

any links to those failed attemps?

47_MasoN_47

· #4 · Oct 7, 2009

I remember someone trying it on one of the old forums....can't remember the name though.

Silicon Wolverine

· #5 · Oct 8, 2009

there were several aborted attempts that never made it past prototyping. the one i remember that made it to functional stage broke after only a few rounds of use. youd have to dig back in teh archives to find it, and of it was the orginal forum its permenently lost. that was a LONG time ago.

SW

guncats

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 8, 2009

The trigger linkage can be tricky ( a bullpup is probably easier), but I don't see why it will break in a few shots.... Wish somebody can post a picture.

Evi|grin

· #7 · Oct 8, 2009

A hunter 40 carbine would be ok but how well would it really sell?

If they striped off any non essentials and added a camo simple compact 4x32 scope package with hunting mag.. In all honesty i think more people would lean towards a NEF single shot with a more powerful caliber and accuracy for about $250-300.

The trick would be in making it sell. What mods could be made that dont have a big impact on cost but make it more appealing as a hunter? How about take the new TS stock and remove all the rails, no iron sights but add a nice "metal" long top scope base. Making it cheaper would IMO be the only chance at making a hunter version sell.

Since we can already do that ourselves (affordably) it just doesnt seem like a profitable move for HP in the current calibers.

guncats

Discussion Starter · #8 · Oct 8, 2009

but the 40 hunter model is California legal.

The 7th largest economy in the world, not a small market share.

Silicon Wolverine

· #9 · Oct 8, 2009

The trigger linkage can be tricky ( a bullpup is probably easier), but I don't see why it will break in a few shots.... Wish somebody can post a picture.

it broke where the wood had to be thinned out to make room for the internals. to keep the smae lines and handling charachteristics as the oringinal stock, wood had to be cut so thin it became brittle.

SW

SHOOTER Z

· #10 · Oct 8, 2009

Why does everyone get on here and want to change a design that has been proven? These weapons have been designed by people who do this for a living, have been tested to all getout and YET we have shadetree gunsmiths out here who keep trying to change the appearance and the manufacturing and everything else about these firearms. IF you want a carbine for hunting buy one that is designed the way you want it. As I have stated BEFORE Hi Point can not repeat CAN NOT keep up with the manufacturing of the already design so WHY would they want to start to redesign an already proven model.

AND if Kommifornia won't let em buy these firearms there then the ones who want them will have to move to someplace that allows them. If you want a 5 round mag take a block of wood open the mag and insert the MEASURED piece into it insert the spring and replace the base. SIMPLE!!

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guncats

Discussion Starter · #11 · Oct 9, 2009

I am not talking about changing the existing model, it will be a new model for a new market. Has no conflict with the existing carbines, it will be pure market gain.

and HP can always expand, no? Line up more suppliers, hire more assembler, move to a larger facility, make more, sell more

A HP factory made laminated stock shouldn handling the pistol caliber recoil just fine, no? They can always make the stock wider if necessary. The wood stock model can be marketed as the "delux" grade and fetch a higher price.

Anyway, the suggestion has been made (an I guess I am not the first one), HP is the only one that can decide whether it will happen (probably not, but you never know

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godlessdustin

· #12 · Oct 9, 2009

I am not talking about changing the existing model, it will be a new model for a new market. Has no conflict with the existing carbines, it will be pure market gain.

and HP can always expand, no? Line up more suppliers, hire more assembler, move to a larger facility, make more, sell more

A HP factory made laminated stock shouldn handling the pistol caliber recoil just fine, no? They can always make the stock wider if necessary. The wood stock model can be marketed as the "delux" grade and fetch a higher price.

Anyway, the suggestion is "submitted", HP is the only one that can decide whether it will happen.

Did you actully submit this question to HP or just this forum?

guncats

Discussion Starter · #13 · Oct 9, 2009

ain't that the same thing? I thought this forum is tied to HP and they read the suggestions here all the time, no?

Or maybe not?

SHOOTER Z

· #14 · Oct 9, 2009

I am not talking about changing the existing model, it will be a new model for a new market. Has no conflict with the existing carbines, it will be pure market gain.

and HP can always expand, no? Line up more suppliers, hire more assembler, move to a larger facility, make more, sell more

A HP factory made laminated stock shouldn handling the pistol caliber recoil just fine, no? They can always make the stock wider if necessary. The wood stock model can be marketed as the "delux" grade and fetch a higher price.

Anyway, the suggestion has been made (an I guess I am not the first one), HP is the only one that can decide whether it will happen (probably not, but you never know ).

Well since the 4595 hasn't been introduced YET after I don't know how many years of devlopment etc etc . Ithink YOUR idea if it becomes fruitful should show in 5 or 15 years [if at all] or maybe longer.

Silicon Wolverine

· #15 · Oct 9, 2009

ain't that the same thing? I thought this forum is tied to HP and they read the suggestions here all the time, no?

Or maybe not?

this forum is not affliated with, nor has any connection to hi point firearms or MKS supply. if you had taken the time to read the COC/TOU you would have known that. some of the employees read things here from time to time. but with all the retarded sugggestions here lately id be surprised if they ever take ANY of them seriously.

SW

SHOOTER Z

· #16 · Oct 9, 2009

By the time they set up a NEW production line for the wood stock model ALL the model's prices would be sky high as to make up for the development AND research and also to toolup a new line. A normal C9 would be has expensive as a higher priced weapon. And THIS is NOT Hi Points goal they are making a lower priced weapon for folks who cannot afford these high price rigs.

Silicon Wolverine

· #17 · Oct 9, 2009

and wood suitable for rifle stocks sells for three to four times the cost of "non-load bearing" wood of the same type. ie wlanut riflestock blanks are pushing 150$ per blank.

SW

Delmar

· #18 · Oct 9, 2009

and wood suitable for rifle stocks sells for three to four times the cost of "non-load bearing" wood of the same type. ie wlanut riflestock blanks are pushing 150$ per blank.

SW

Now that drives a point home.

Delmar

· #19 · Oct 9, 2009

Did you actully submit this question to HP or just this forum?

I've been to the Hi Point website, and I didn't see a Suggestion Zone

Silicon Wolverine

· #20 · Oct 9, 2009

and if i ever find out he wasted the time of factory employees for this lunacy, bad things could happen.

SW

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