I would guess some of this has been covered before, But maybe not so here goes. When I talk to people about hi points or see reviews almost everyone says the same few things. 1- They are ugly/not sexy 2- They are heavy 3- They jam Number 1 ---I don't understand pretty and sexy to me are not firearms, that's my wife. But for others I guess it's different, So I guess these people but shovels or wrenches that are pretty to them. It's a tool who cares how it looks if it does the job it was made for? Number 2---- heavy compared to what? If you take the two most popular hand guns 1911 and Glock both are as heavy or heavier then the hi piont. My Glock 17 is heavier than the C9 when they are loaded and why carry it if it's empty? Number 3--- most firearms will jam until you break them in, why do people think the hi points won't be the same. And yes these don't have the fit and finish of the high end firearms but your not paying for that. If you can't take 30 mins to clean and polish it don't buy it, spend the extra money to have someone else do it for you. I get the impression people are looking for a super high tech firearm that has lots of rails you can attach all the gear you could ever need, have anti gravity so it doesn't weight anything, million round magazines (or clip as they call it), never need to clean or lube it and it needs to be around $100. So I'm guessing maybe they are up set that they over paid for their firearm. Don't get me wrong I know Hi points aren't I the same class as the $1000 pistols but they aren't meant to be. I'm not sure I would carry my C9 as a EDC but it has done great and after a few more hundred rounds I could change my thinking on that.