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I am looking to purchase a propane portable electric generator for my house. Price limit is around $750. We are looking for something that we would run two extension cords from outside to the refrigerators or space heaters if it is Winter. I would like this generator to last for at least four years or longer. Mostly we will only use it if electrical power is knocked out.

Please give your opinion on what would be a good generator. I want to stay with propane as I do not have to worry about the fuel going bad like gasoline does if not used in about six months.

This is what I have found thus far that I am looking at:

WGen3600DF 4,650/3,600 Watt Dual Fuel Gas or Propane Powered Portable Generator - $530
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Westing...mote-Start-and-Wheel-Kit-WGen3600DF/303950440
 
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1. Bury a cable in the yard and wire it straight to your breaker box.
I've had a contractor do mine and I can run most of the house on a 8500W generator.
2. I've got a gasoline/LPG generator from Costco ($950), I've only used gasoline. I put fuel stabilizer in and a little Marvel Mystery oil.
3. At the end of Hurricane season I run my gasoline stash through our vehicles and come June I build my stash up again.
4. Rinse and repeat.

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I am looking to purchase a propane portable electric generator for my house. Price limit is around $750. We are looking for something that we would run two extension cords from outside to the refrigerators or space heaters if it is Winter. I would like this generator to last for at least four years or longer. Mostly we will only use it if electrical power is knocked out.

Please give your opinion on what would be a good generator. I want to stay with propane as I do not have to worry about the fuel going bad like gasoline does if not used in about six months.

This is what I have found thus far that I am looking at:

WGen3600DF 4,650/3,600 Watt Dual Fuel Gas or Propane Powered Portable Generator - $530
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Westing...mote-Start-and-Wheel-Kit-WGen3600DF/303950440
Do you have to have that remote start? It must also need a battery to start it. Just more that can screw up and go wrong.
 

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@1024Megabytes my mom did the same thing when I was out last summer. She got that very same brand generator you have pictured that I wired directly in to her breaker box. You don't need to bury a cord. You can buy the plug and box that you will attach to the wall, interior or exterior, and wire in to your panel. You'll need a new double breaker and a generator interlock kit. You'll be able to run any circuits in your house as long as they add up to less then your total generator amperage. No need for extension cords.

The ran it during the last hurricane in NC and were even able to run their central air when it got really hot.
 

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@1024Megabytes my mom did the same thing when I was out last summer. She got that very same brand generator you have pictured that I wired directly in to her breaker box. You don't need to bury a cord. You can buy the plug and box that you will attach to the wall, interior or exterior, and wire in to your panel. You'll need a new double breaker and a generator interlock kit. You'll be able to run any circuits in your house as long as they add up to less then your total generator amperage. No need for extension cords.

The ran it during the last hurricane in NC and were even able to run their central air when it got really hot.
It CAN be done a lot simpler than a "double breaker" (transfer switch is the name I know it by) and that last part needs clarified a bit, you can run more load than just adding up the ratings of the breakers you are running inside, but Rachiger did not mean it that way... The genny will have a load chart/manual with it to help you estimate the # of appliances/loads you can run.
I'd bust that budget and get a bigger generator, 4kW is not much at all. Like 2 fully loaded circuits. I had an outage for 3+ weeks this year and I was glad that I bought a BIG Genny. During the lower demands, it uses less fuel, so the extra size is not that big a liability. I'd say @SWAGA has it covered, excellent choice.
 

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It CAN be done a lot simpler than a "double breaker" (transfer switch is the name I know it by) and that last part needs clarified a bit, you can run more load than just adding up the ratings of the breakers you are running inside, but Rachiger did not mean it that way... The genny will have a load chart/manual with it to help you estimate the # of appliances/loads you can run.
I'd bust that budget and get a bigger generator, 4kW is not much at all. Like 2 fully loaded circuits. I had an outage for 3+ weeks this year and I was glad that I bought a BIG Genny. During the lower demands, it uses less fuel, so the extra size is not that big a liability. I'd say @SWAGA has it covered, excellent choice.
No, it's that simple. A new double breaker and an interlock kit. This is the same set up I installed in mom's SquareD box, per manufacturer's specs, NC code, and rated to the specific generator with a reliance 50 Amp generator inlet and 30' cable. Had to buy a different plug end to match the generator. Still have the unused plug too. No idea why. It passed inspection.

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I’ve got 8500 and I can run the house as long as we only run one high ticket item at a time.
Those are A/C, dryer and water heater.
I’ve got my generator in my tool shed with a McGyver exhaust and like I said a buried cable.
With extension cords I could barely run anything.
 

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WGen3600DF 4,650/3,600 Watt Dual Fuel Gas or Propane Powered Portable Generator - $530
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Westing...mote-Start-and-Wheel-Kit-WGen3600DF/303950440
OK, a few points:
1. Extremely doubtful that genny is made by Westinghouse, it is most likely a re-branded Generac with a corporate paint scheme for each "brand". So if you can find a comparable unit with the same specs for LESS, I'd buy it.
2. It's kinda small, basically 2 full loaded circuits... period. Not 2+, just TWO. 3600 is your rated load, 4650 is the start up surge loads. Motors draw the most at start then drop down once they reach operating speed. So that higher number is just for bragging rights mostly. it's usually only gotta be +20%, anything higher is probably false advertising or using a non-standard ratings system.
3. Gasoline does not go bad in 6 months, but if you are concerned you can do like @SWAGA suggested AND ADD Sta-Bil fuel stabilizer, it will basically double the life of your fuel or more. Fuel in a sealed can does not really go bad like an unsealed can. That's because the lighter, easy evaporating components escape. On a cooler day this is a non-issue. So you'd be fine in the winter, IMO
4. I got me a YUGE gasoline genny this year, and ran the whole house. Harbor Freight. I ran it continuously for 2 weeks, contrary to directions, I fueled it up while running. Fuel consumption was even better than the smaller watt unit I had from my Dad for the first week. I also ran more stuff with the big-boy, and used less fuel. Harbor Freight Predator!
https://www.harborfreight.com/9000-...life-gas-powered-generator-epa-iii-63970.html
5. If you really want dual fuel, shop around a little more you could find a bigger Wattage unit in you $750 range.
6. I can even offer detailed support so you can save a lot by not running a "transfer switch" but you need a proper start-up and shutdown procedure. Fairly simple, but necessary. YES, I am a trained professional, I've done this since 1985...
 

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My bad, just caught my typo. Mom bought the 12.5kW 100A unit. So it was a 100A inlet box.
 

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No, it's that simple. A new double breaker and an interlock kit. This is the same set up I installed in mom's SquareD box, per manufacturer's specs, NC code, and rated to the specific generator with a reliance 50 Amp generator inlet and 30' cable. Had to buy a different plug end to match the generator. Still have the unused plug too. No idea why. It passed inspection.

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NICE, but when I meant SIMPLE, I meant less monkeying around and less cost. Simpler to install, but more complicated to run LOL
Not much more complications. Once the power fails, do this:

1. Shut of the Main Breaker...
2. Turn on the Generator breaker
3. plug cord into breaker (outlet)
4. start generator
5. insert plug into generator out on control panel

No inspection needed for my set up...
 

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NICE, but when I meant SIMPLE, I meant less monkeying around and less cost. Simpler to install, but more complicated to run LOL
Not much more complications. Once the power fails, do this:

1. Shut of the Main Breaker...
2. Turn on the Generator breaker
3. plug cord into breaker (outlet)
4. start generator
5. insert plug into generator out on control panel

No inspection needed for my set up...
That's all this set up is only there's an interlock so you can't backfeed the grid through the main breaker and vice versa. I didn't even pull a permit for this. Her county wrote a huge loophole into the permit waiving process. No need to file for one up to 365 days for hurricane related repairs. Installing a generator fell under that umbrella. He neighbor on one side is a trooper, the neighbor on the other side is a contractor, and the guy across the street is an electrician.

I hate working with an audience, which is why I'm not in porn, but it was contractor and electrician certified AFTER I left, and the trooper asked if I could install one at his house next time I came through on vacation.

The system is just rated for 100 amps with all of the rated equipment because the firefighter in me doesn't like electrical fires.
 

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We do not have the budget for wiring up the house for a generator and I have no knowledge on how to do electrical wiring. I just want the red neck way of running two or three extension cords into the house using a small gap in my sliding glass door. I do not need a remote starter for the generator but having one does not bother me as long as I am able to also pull start it.

This one looks better I think. It is a 5,500 Watt:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Westing...mote-Start-and-Wheel-Kit-WGen3600DF/303950440
 

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We do not have the budget for wiring up the house for a generator and I have no knowledge on how to do electrical wiring. I just want the red neck way of running two or three extension cords into the house using a small gap in my sliding glass door. I do not need a remote starter for the generator but having one does not bother me as long as I am able to also pull start it.

This one looks better I think. It is a 5,500 Watt:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Westing...mote-Start-and-Wheel-Kit-WGen3600DF/303950440
Understandable. When it comes to generators bigger is better for fuel economy because the further away from peak load you are, the less work it has to do. My suggestion for your solution is to go with contractor grade heavy duty cord(s) and power strips. Thicker gauge equals less resistance, less resistance yada yada.

Reminds me about teaching pump operations to the probies and explaining hydraulic friction loss.
 

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Find a local electrician to hook it up to your breaker box.
Using a fat cable and run it through the 240V port on your generator.
I had so much loss through extension cords it’s unreal.
I’d suggest you up your budget to $1100-$1200, you won’t regret it.
$800-$900 for the generator, $150 for cable and connectors and $150-$200 to hook it up to your breaker box.
You’re going to spend 2/3’s of that and you won’t be happy.
 

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Find a local electrician to hook it up to your breaker box.
Using a fat cable and run it through the 240V port on your generator.
I had so much loss through extension cords it's unreal.
I'd suggest you up your budget to $1100-$1200, you won't regret it.
$800-$900 for the generator, $150 for cable and connectors and $150-$200 to hook it up to your breaker box.
You're going to spend 2/3's of that and you won't be happy.
Pretty much what I was saying in slightly different terms.
I taught a complete newb, over the phone, how to hook up a 240v welder at his
mom's house (where he lived) around 1999 and it worked perfectly. Dood was just a kid, 20 or 21. No experience whatsoever. I'd think Mega could do it... ;)
 

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PS: YUGE Difference between the new HF genny I bought (7200W) and the 5500W Honeywell Dad had on hand. The recoil starter broke, it would not rewind, and it was a PITA to take the cover off, rewind by hand and then get one pull and hope it started...
The honeywell could not handle the AC, fridge (on startup) and normal loads all at once. Oh, the water heater kicking in bogged it down and I just got to shutting it off and would only run it with other things off. Power management was a chore, but with the newer and bigger HF it was a breeze. We could run 2 AC window units, all normal household loads and the water heater could even work except the genny sounded "excessively loaded" so I never ran all that at once. It was a YUGE diff. almost like having double the capacity, except it was just a little less than 2000 watts, on paper. The honeywell works fine, but it was probably overrated actually. The HF is likely a little under rated? hard to say.

The HF used so much less gas it was crazy. prolly 30% less fuel, maybe 40%.
The honey well is still a good unit, it just needs a new pull cord unit. I've looked
EVERYWHERE. No electric start option on it, sadly enough. I started it once with
and electric drill, ALMOST smoked the drill but it started!
 

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PS: YUGE Difference between the new HF genny I bought (7200W) and the 5500W Honeywell Dad had on hand. The recoil starter broke, it would not rewind, and it was a PITA to take the cover off, rewind by hand and then get one pull and hope it started...
The honeywell could not handle the AC, fridge (on startup) and normal loads all at once. Oh, the water heater kicking in bogged it down and I just got to shutting it off and would only run it with other things off. Power management was a chore, but with the newer and bigger HF it was a breeze. We could run 2 AC window units, all normal household loads and the water heater could even work except the genny sounded "excessively loaded" so I never ran all that at once. It was a YUGE diff. almost like having double the capacity, except it was just a little less than 2000 watts, on paper. The honeywell works fine, but it was probably overrated actually. The HF is likely a little under rated? hard to say.

The HF used so much less gas it was crazy. prolly 30% less fuel, maybe 40%.
The honey well is still a good unit, it just needs a new pull cord unit. I've looked
EVERYWHERE. No electric start option on it, sadly enough. I started it once with
and electric drill, ALMOST smoked the drill but it started!
Didn't HF change over to a "new" small engine supplier? I was in there 2 weeks ago, and it was the first time in about a year, and noticed they went with Predator brand or something now? Kind of like Walmart ditching Stanley Black and Decker for Hart and their own Hyper Tough line of tools.
 

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Burying a cable in SWFL might be an iffy deal. Often times the soil is very acidic.

Swag how high above sea level are you? I have seen the pics of your "lake" near you. My sister's old house in Bonita Springs had 2-3 ft of water in it. She sold it a couple of years before Irene dumped all that water.
 

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It’s maybe 3/4 inch cable in a pvc pipe that’s buried about a foot deep where the elevation is 6-6.5’.
 
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