[Zer0DazE]

I ordered this last week, but waited until it came in to post about it... I wanted to make sure they weren't crap.

The kit came in with the new US barrel installed, and everything was already de-milled. YATZEE

After shipping it was 210-215ish. It's not the price they once were, but better than its been in a while.

 

[tha_cyko]

I ordered one tonight. i have an AK receiver that has been sitting around for about a year now waiting for an affordable part kit............. i have two questions though 1) does it come with rivets??? 2) is it a single or double hook trigger?

 

[Zer0DazE]

no rivets, and it comes with the original full auto single hook trigger. This is just a de-milled kit... you still need rivets or screws, and semi-auto trigger assembly.

 

[Slimshady]

From reading posts on other boards, these appear to be demilled rifles that were built here using US made bbls and foreign parts kits. They were assembled with brand new Mossberg made bbls. They were also considered "seconds" because of canted sights, gas blocks, etc. and they decided it was more profitable to sell them as kits than fix them.

Other than the easily fixed misalignment problems, these should be a good deal to build on considering the current kit prices. They were already headspaced with the new bbl, and that along with the already installed bbl attachments takes away a lot of the effort needed to build a kit with a new bbl.

 

[tjbeggs]

So help out a newb! What would be needed to assemble this into a working AK and what kind of money are we talking to buy suck parts?

 

[Slimshady]

You need a new receiver. They can be bought through an FFL as a complete receiver that just need the parts riveted to it (NodakSpud is the best) or you can get a "blank" in the form of a flat that needs bent to shape or a pre-bent metal tube that needs all the holes and openings cut out. Receivers cost $45 and up, flats can be had in the $15 range and up.

You will need 4 more USA made parts to make it compliant with 922(r). AKs cannot have more than 10 foreign made parts (from a list in the law) in them and these originally had 16 on the list. IO already replaced the bbl and the receiver will be US made, leaving 4 more parts to replace. A US made semi auto trigger group is 3 more parts, around $30 for a Tapco set. A USA made muzzle slant brake is another $10 from Tapco.

You will also need rivets, these run $6 and up.

Tools will be needed to pull the bbl, set the rivets, and reinstall the bbl. Most DIYers already have some of the tools needed. The rest casn be made or borrowed.

They can also be screwed together, 10-32 button head screws are used. Tapping the super hard trunnions can result in a broken tap very easily. Riveting is not that hard though.

 

[Stryker1]

Zer0DazE What about doing a write up or a build along on this??? I would be interested in what it takes do do one with a flat reciever.....

PM me if you want to se this up?

 

[tha_cyko]

Back in stock! These are our very good to excellent AKM (AK stamped receiver) parts kits. Includes 1x 30-round Romanian steel magazine. A NEW US MADE BARREL IS INCLUDED. Some kits contain preassembled barrels with trunnion, some do not. All kits are complete incl. a semi auto bolt carrier, semi auto safety, a full auto romanian trigger set, stock tang, etc. The stocks are laminated wood in excellent condition. All BATF/NFA rules apply!

this is the discription....sorry but i'm AK ignorant, this is my first AK.

It says semi bolt carrier, but full auto trigger set..... so its still full auto until the trigger is changed??? and i thought the different trigger hooks was just the different springs.... so there is no single hook semi auto....... and no double hook full auto???

 

[Silicon Wolverine]

the bolt carrier has a trip stud that is machined off to make it semi auto. the full auto trigger group has to be replaced to make it legal. single hooks are for full auto, double hook are semi.

SW

 

[Zer0DazE]

Zer0DazE What about doing a write up or a build along on this??? I would be interested in what it takes do do one with a flat reciever.....

PM me if you want to se this up?

I'm not going to build from a flat, unless I can find someone in the WNY area with a jig already.

 

[Slimshady]

Actually, the trigger itself is the same in a full and a semi group, the two parts of the group that are different are the hammer and the disconnector. The hammer has an extra sear notch on it for the autosear to engage and the disconnector has a "tail" on it so the selector can disable it during FA fire. The replacement semi auto groups include a trigger and can be had in single or double hook.

Single and double hook triggers exist because the Soviets added a "hammer retarder" to the trigger group when they went to the stamped receiver AKM in the 1950s. The original milled Ak47s used the double hook design, when the hammer retarder was added it esentially replaced the right side hook on the trigger.

If you look at the trigger opening in your receiver there will be one or two slots extending forward from the opening. The slot(s) are there to clear the bottom of the hook(s) on the trigger. Most people opt for the single hook trigger because it is a drop in fit in all receivers. However, I prefer the double hook as it has built in redundancy. If one hook should ever break off your rifle will still function with the remaining hook. If the single hook breaks, your rifle is useless until you replace the trigger. You do have to fit it to a single slot receiver, either by cutting a second slot or grinding a bit on the botom of the RH hook where it contacts the receiver. If you carefully fit this area, cutting only enough to allow the hammer to fall you have created an overtravel stop. Normally this feature is only available on the pricey Red Star adjustable group.

 

[Zer0DazE]

From reading posts on other boards, these appear to be demilled rifles that were built here using US made bbls and foreign parts kits. They were assembled with brand new Mossberg made bbls. They were also considered "seconds" because of canted sights, gas blocks, etc. and they decided it was more profitable to sell them as kits than fix them.

Other than the easily fixed misalignment problems, these should be a good deal to build on considering the current kit prices. They were already headspaced with the new bbl, and that along with the already installed bbl attachments takes away a lot of the effort needed to build a kit with a new bbl.

Out of curiosity, what forum did you see this on?

 

[Slimshady]

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57548

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=223063

Couple others a quick search fails to produce. Looks like maybe they have several different types of demills selling under this ad.

 

[Zer0DazE]

Thanks

Everything on mine looks straight except maybe the FSB might be canted a bit. I will have to take a look at it again this weekend.

 

[Slimshady]

Even if you have a slightly off kit, it is still a heck of a deal in todays marketplace. the days of unissued G kits for $105 delivered is long gone.

 

[Zer0DazE]

Even if you have a slightly off kit, it is still a heck of a deal in todays marketplace. the days of unissued G kits for $105 delivered is long gone.

Apex has the Yugo front ends for just under 90. It is taking everything in my power to not order a couple/few of them.

I have been reading mixed reviews though. Some are coming in dirty and eating bullets, while others are getting theirs and saying they look great.

 

[tha_cyko]

is this a semi auto trigger group??

And which rivet kit is needed for the io kit. i'm going to leave it with the full wood stock

one other question if i bought the apex front end, what is needed to complete a rifle?? i know i need a receiver, and furinture, but is that it? also is it a 16" barrel

 

[Slimshady]

Yes, that's the G2 semi auto group sold by Tapco. 3 USA parts.

Most people selling rivet kits of only one type have the standard AKM kit, which is what these G kits need. If the seller offers several types, you want the standard fixed stock AKM kit.

To complete a rifle from the Apex parts you would need a receiver, rear stock mounting trunnion and stock, pistol grip and mounting hardware, a triggerguard assembly, a fire control group with pins, and a selector. Be aware the Yugos are built on the RPK style receiver, they are thicker and have a couple bumpouts in the front trunnion area to accomodate the RPK style trunnion. Also, the rear stock and PG mounts are more like the milled receiver models. Unless you can find Yugo specific stock and PG parts, you will have to do some adapting.

 

[tha_cyko]

any one get their kit together yet???? I'm going to harbor freight to get a bolt cutter, (to make into a riviter), and a gear puller (to remove the barrel and the rest of the rivits)

Than assembly will begin, I also bought tapco USA trigger parts and flash suppressor

 

[TheDragon]

Is it economical to build an AK .... I'm just curious?