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My SIL recently purchased a PSA Dagger, he was telling me you have to rack the slide in order to set the trigger. What I mean is unless you rack the slide, the trigger normally sits in the fired position.

That made me curious because my FMK 9c1G2 is the only other pistol I know of that does the same thing.

Looking at both pistols, is there enough similarity:

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Maybe, maybe not. The takedown bar looks the same, the trigger pin and location, the rail under the barrel, sure. But the frame and slide don't...could have been redesigned by PSA. Wonder if the fire control system is the same?

I haven't seen his Dagger yet but I told him we ought to do a side-by-side comparison.

The FMK was a Glock 19 clone, so it's possible PSA purchased the rights from FMK and did some redesign on it.

Here's the FMK un-cocked to show the position of the trigger:
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Similarity does make you wonder.
 

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I thought it was supposed to be a glock-off. Doesn't it take G3 parts? Drop in a G3 trigger, put on a G3 slide, etc.

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I agree with Kirk.
 

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I thought it was supposed to be a glock-off. Doesn't it take G3 parts? Drop in a G3 trigger, put on a G3 slide, etc.

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That's what they're saying, the Dagger is a G3 clone. But so was the FMK, a clone of the 19. Maybe that's why they're so similar. Not sure how the G19 and G3 compare.
 

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That's what they're saying, the Dagger is a G3 clone. But so was the FMK, a clone of the 19.
The MSRP of the two are nearly the same. $379 for the Dagger, $350 for the FMK.

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Does the FMK take Glock mags? That's the interesting thing about the PSA to me - other than the S&W trigger design, it's a straight up Glock Gen 3 clone. And the trigger bits can be swapped out.

ETA: I see the FMK does not take Glock mags, which is why I never paid attention to it before.

The Glock trigger does not reset until the slide cycles.
 

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Does the FMK take Glock mags? That's the interesting thing about the PSA to me - other than the S&W trigger design, it's a straight up Glock Gen 3 clone. And the trigger bits can be swapped out.

ETA: I see the FMK does not take Glock mags, which is why I never paid attention to it before.

The Glock trigger does not reset until the slide cycles.
Well, that explains the FMK and PSA triggers then!!!

I don't own any real Glocks so same here.

I like the size and feel of the FMK, it would be perfect if it had a Canik TP9 trigger in it!!! The DOA trigger it came with sucked, but I replaced it with their 804 trigger and it's much better but still not Canik better. Or if it had the Taurus TX22 trigger!!!

I'll have to check to see if a Glock trigger can be put in, how are their triggers anyway?
 

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Just buy a Canik. I forget which trigger bar my brother put in his Gen4 G19. It was a "file fit." Best danged trigger on a Glock I've ever shot. There is some drop in triggers. Just get out your check book. That trigger is hinged on the Dagger. Not a Glock style trigger. Looks like the one on my Gen1 Shield. That Shield trigger isn't the best. Finger placement is paramount with accuracy. In a "Oh shit" situation with any distance it could work against you.Not saying the PSA trigger would.

I have an injury on my right hand from a MVA in 1981. The puny little mag button sucks for me. The 4's, and 5's no problem!
 
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The FMK was a Glock 19 clone, so it's possible PSA purchased the rights from FMK and did some redesign on it.
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How could FMK sell something they purchased (or STOLE) from Glock?

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My G30 also does the same thing, as well as all my glunks.
 

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How could FMK sell something they purchased (or STOLE) from Glock?

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My G30 also does the same thing, as well as all my glunks.
How many different 1911's are there? How many CZ pistol clones? Once the patent is so old they are open for cloning..
 
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How could FMK sell something they purchased (or STOLE) from Glock?

:rotfl:

My G30 also does the same thing, as well as all my glunks.
All of Glock's Gen 3 patents are expired, and only California's pistol registry is keeping the production lines open for Gen 3s. So the door is wide open to Gen 3 clones. Unlike when S&W tried it w/ the Sigma, w/ a near exact copy of the Glock bbl, and had to start paying Glock royalties on every Sigma sold.

Glock triggers go from stock to Timney.
 

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When are they going to make a competitor for the Sig P365

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Doubt they will. I'm liking the feel of the TP9SC. Have one in tungsten slide. All black is on order $374 shipped. No tax. Also have a METE on order 4.47" barrel!
 
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