Made the jump to a hi point yesterday, i bought a .45 for 184. I did a lot of research and looking threw different sites to see what people had to say abou hi point and they have pretty suprisingly good. I was figuring "it cost less so it must be cheap and crappy" but that hasnt been the case in my experience, "for the most part". I get to pick up my new baby Friday yay. I currently own a beretta 21A and hope that the addition of my first Hi Point will lead to more hi point purchases. So here is to hoping for a great gun to use and carry.