[godlessdustin]

I hope all things work out the best they can one way or the other. If at all possible I rely wouldnt want Americans shooting at each other.

 

[Rhodes]

I hope all things work out the best they can one way or the other. If at all possible I rely wouldnt want Americans shooting at each other.

I agree, we tried that once, we are way to good at it to spar against each other. Soapbox-Ballot box-Jury box-Cartridge box, there are very good reasons for that order as long as all options remain in tact.

 

[sean187]

other people have to pay for their air? :undecided:

 

[godlessdustin]

I hope all things work out the best they can one way or the other. If at all possible I rely wouldn't want Americans shooting at each other.

I agree, we tried that once, we are way to good at it to spar against each other. Soapbox-Ballot box-Jury box-Cartridge box, there are very good reasons for that order as long as all options remain in tact.

I have been thinking about this allot lately. I understand that some people are conservative and some people are liberal. We cant both be right about everything obviously so we cant both be wrong. Indeed there are some insane retarded whack job liberals out there. You will agree with that. There are also some equally disturbed conservatives out there. Examples being people like Timothy McVeigh, The KKK and there are are others. But my point is that even i we disagree o things it would b foolish of one side to let the other have too much power. I understand that you think currently the liberals have too much power. But 2 years ago I would have said the same thing of the conservatives. Admitidly given the opportunity some liberals would strip you of some rights. You may disagree but I know for sure the same of allot of conservatives. Point being if everyone was completely on one side or the other this country would be allot worse off for allot of people. I'm willing to admit right now that some ideas different than mine are probably completely right. But I am also willing to bet that allot of liberal ideas are right too. Is there anyone else willing to admit that they could be wrong and the other side cold be right? Just something allot of people should think about before they get too trigger happy with the revolution stuff.

Edited for spelling.

 

[leadslinger]

I have been thinking about this allot latey. I understand that some people are conservative and some people are liberal. We cant both be right about everything obviously so we cant bothbe wrong. Indeed there are some insane retarded wack job liberals out there. You will agree with that. There are also some equaly disturbed conservatives out there. Examples being people like Timothy Mcveigh, The KKK and there are are others. But my point is that even i we disagree o things it would b foolish of one side to let the other have too much power. I understand that you think currently the liberals have too much power. But 2 years ago I would have said the same thing of the conservatives. Admitidly givin the opratunity some liberals would strip you of some rights. You may dsagree but I know for sure the same of alot of conservatives. Point being if everyone was completely on one side or the other this country wuld be allot worse off for alot of people. Im willing to adit right now that some ideas different than mine are probably comletely right. But I am also willing to bet that alot of liberal ieas are right too. Is there anyone else willing to admit that they could be wrong and the other side cold be right? Just something alot of people should think about befor they get too trigger happy with the revolution stuff.

+1 man, good thinking.

 

[sean187]

sara palin :tongue2:

 

[godlessdustin]

sara palin :tongue2:

What?

 

[sean187]

sry still gettin use to this forum im replyin to something pages back

 

[godlessdustin]

LOL. You'll figure it out. I think I know how so many dillhole posts show up now though.

 

[SHOOTER Z]

Sarah Palin for President and Glenn Beck as her running mate YA!!!

 

[bomber101581]

I have been thinking about this allot latey. I understand that some people are conservative and some people are liberal. We cant both be right about everything obviously so we cant bothbe wrong. Indeed there are some insane retarded wack job liberals out there. You will agree with that. There are also some equaly disturbed conservatives out there. Examples being people like Timothy Mcveigh, The KKK and there are are others. But my point is that even i we disagree o things it would b foolish of one side to let the other have too much power. I understand that you think currently the liberals have too much power. But 2 years ago I would have said the same thing of the conservatives. Admitidly givin the opratunity some liberals would strip you of some rights. You may dsagree but I know for sure the same of alot of conservatives. Point being if everyone was completely on one side or the other this country wuld be allot worse off for alot of people. Im willing to adit right now that some ideas different than mine are probably comletely right. But I am also willing to bet that alot of liberal ieas are right too. Is there anyone else willing to admit that they could be wrong and the other side cold be right? Just something alot of people should think about befor they get too trigger happy with the revolution stuff.

+1 man, good thinking.

godlessdustin for president.

the whole problem with our country right now is the inability of either side to humbly admit that they could be wrong about something. when you can't understand how your position may be flawed, then you end any chance of coming to a workable solution about anything.

 

[leadslinger]

the whole problem with our country right now is the inability of either side to humbly admit that they could be wrong about something. when you can't understand how your position may be flawed, then you end any chance of coming to a workable solution about anything.

That is the revolution we need, sadly it's not the one most want.

 

[Rhodes]

I hope all things work out the best they can one way or the other. If at all possible I rely wouldn't want Americans shooting at each other.

I agree, we tried that once, we are way to good at it to spar against each other. Soapbox-Ballot box-Jury box-Cartridge box, there are very good reasons for that order as long as all options remain in tact.

I have been thinking about this allot lately. I understand that some people are conservative and some people are liberal. We cant both be right about everything obviously so we cant both be wrong. Indeed there are some insane retarded whack job liberals out there. You will agree with that. There are also some equally disturbed conservatives out there. Examples being people like Timothy McVeigh, The KKK and there are are others. But my point is that even i we disagree o things it would b foolish of one side to let the other have too much power. I understand that you think currently the liberals have too much power. But 2 years ago I would have said the same thing of the conservatives. Admitidly given the opportunity some liberals would strip you of some rights. You may disagree but I know for sure the same of allot of conservatives. Point being if everyone was completely on one side or the other this country would be allot worse off for allot of people. I'm willing to admit right now that some ideas different than mine are probably completely right. But I am also willing to bet that allot of liberal ideas are right too. Is there anyone else willing to admit that they could be wrong and the other side cold be right? Just something allot of people should think about before they get too trigger happy with the revolution stuff.

Edited for spelling.

There is a vocabulary problem when discussing left vs right. Erroneously we place communists/socialists at the far left while Fascists are placed at the far right. THIS IS WRONG.
Those ends are in reality the same condition the diminishing of the individuals right to property and liberty which are indeed the same thing. The Weather Underground is not different than McVey, they are the same disease. Anarchy will destroy liberty just as easily as tyranny destroys it.

There is the building realization in this current "conservative" movement that we are better off with a hands off approach to government. Just as liberty cannot be legislated to prevent immorality, property cannot be legislated to insure the absence of poverty. One cannot be separated from the other, liberty is self-control of your life and property.

Simple isnt it?

I am seeing fear on politicians faces that I have never seen before. There is good reason there are no political leaders of this Tea Party movement, they are all scared to death of it.

Last week there was one of the largest gathering of protesters in history at Washington and "they" are all pretending it didnt happen. The President even left town entirely, dont think that was coincidence. The former mainstream (fringe now) media is acting like its all a bad dream that will go away if they dont talk about it. Something is happening and it is without precedence in modern American history.

Beck gathered and displayed proof the debt is being monetized yesterday. Even to the point of tracking down a particular 5 Billion dollar bond that is now owned by the Federal Reserve, debt purchased with printed money, disaster in the making. He has also shown proof positive the administration covered up the cost of Cap and Trade. Not logic, documented proof. Where is the neo-fringe(former mainstream) media on these matters?

Are these the actions of a crazy man?

No, he may get emotional but he aint crazy. And funny thing is he doesnt seem to be letting this get to his ego, time will tell.

 

[bomber101581]

the whole problem with our country right now is the inability of either side to humbly admit that they could be wrong about something. when you can't understand how your position may be flawed, then you end any chance of coming to a workable solution about anything.

That is the revolution we need, sadly it's not the one most want.

amen brother

 

[Butterbone]

I hope all things work out the best they can one way or the other. If at all possible I rely wouldn't want Americans shooting at each other.

I agree, we tried that once, we are way to good at it to spar against each other. Soapbox-Ballot box-Jury box-Cartridge box, there are very good reasons for that order as long as all options remain in tact.

I have been thinking about this allot lately. I understand that some people are conservative and some people are liberal. We cant both be right about everything obviously so we cant both be wrong. Indeed there are some insane retarded whack job liberals out there. You will agree with that. There are also some equally disturbed conservatives out there. Examples being people like Timothy McVeigh, The KKK and there are are others. But my point is that even i we disagree o things it would b foolish of one side to let the other have too much power. I understand that you think currently the liberals have too much power. But 2 years ago I would have said the same thing of the conservatives. Admitidly given the opportunity some liberals would strip you of some rights. You may disagree but I know for sure the same of allot of conservatives. Point being if everyone was completely on one side or the other this country would be allot worse off for allot of people. I'm willing to admit right now that some ideas different than mine are probably completely right. But I am also willing to bet that allot of liberal ideas are right too. Is there anyone else willing to admit that they could be wrong and the other side cold be right? Just something allot of people should think about before they get too trigger happy with the revolution stuff.

Edited for spelling.

It's an interesting interpretation. But what you are advocating is a that we try to make sure our pollitical views amount to balance like this.

When in reality, Left V Right, is in itself the problem. Left versus Right is a black and white stance when we live in a world with a political syntax that looks more like this.

There is WAY more gray in there than black and white, and people have to live in the gray. Anyone you meet who is firmly in the black or the white is gonna be from a reasonable persons standpoint, a whackjob.

But when people portray themselves as just black, or just white, it's easier to stake a claim to purity and purity is simple, so we gravitate to simple.

I'm not trying to over simplify your statements, or to insult you. Being willing to admit that your "party" doesn't have all the answers, really is the key. And I agree with you that the two party system we have refuses to acknowledge that in nearly every aspect.

That's why I think that party systems are the biggest part of the problem. They are the key element to the continuing scam.

 

[godlessdustin]

I wasn't talking about parties but OK.

 

[kevron2020]

I wasn't talking about parties but OK.

Parties.. will there be a keg and strippers?? (now that I have completely derailed this discussion train)

 

[SHOOTER Z]

I wasn't talking about parties but OK.

Parties.. will there be a keg and ENTERTAINERS?? (now that I have completely derailed this discussion train)

Fixed it for you as this is the PC name now.

 

[bomber101581]

from a reasonable persons standpoint

umm...i thought you knew, these don't exist anymore

 

[Rhodes]

from a reasonable persons standpoint

umm...i thought you knew, these don't exist anymore

You guys dont get to define reasonable any longer.