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Nothing new really, but this is the info I got from MKS today.

The factory has not started production for the .45 ACP carbine yet. In all honesty, we keep hearing "soon", but so far we haven't been given a definite date. We really don't see it being available until sometime in 2008.

We will be updating our website www.hi-pointfirearms.com when the carbine is released and being shipped; please check on the site now and then for any news. We’ll be keeping you posted as best we can.
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They said "sometime in 2007" last year. I guess we just keep on waiting...
well atleast we know to quit calling them and just check the site now. thanks for the update.


i may try to collect one in a few years. but as of now i may just try n pick up a .40 cal.
The 4595 is slowly becoming the Duke Nukem Forever of firearms ;)
lol, man i forgot all about duke nukem forever =] nice analogy.
Much like the 4595, I hear rumors of a 2008 release date for Duke Nukem Forever.
well atleast we know to quit calling them and just check the site now. thanks for the update.

i may try to collect one in a few years. but as of now i may just try n pick up a .40 cal.
The 4095 is a nice carbine, nothing wrong with it at all. More powerful than the 995.
Just wish they would make the new 4595 with magazines compatable with grease guns. Hell I have 10 of those laying around.
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'08?.....lord.
'08?.....lord.
Ah, c'mon...'08 is only a month away... :wink:
Ah, c'mon...'08 is only a month away... :wink:
And we've only been hearing about this .45 carbine since 2005! :roll:

It's always the same message: "Just another 6 months to a year while we get caught up on the backorders." :x

I think it's time for Hi-Point to expand a little on the manufacturing side of things and up the QC a little. :?
Whats the point in spending money in expanding if Hillary gets into office?

They will be busy doing the same things we will be, digging holes in their back yard and hiding their guns and ammo :shock:
Whats the point in spending money in expanding if Hillary gets into office?

They will be busy doing the same things we will be, digging holes in their back yard and hiding their guns and ammo :shock:
While I've no doubt that is the desire of people on the statist end of things, I'm fairly certain they'll not find confiscation easy. After the Assault Weapon Ban many people were turned out of office. The attitude of the voters toward gun control has noticeably cooled in the last few years and the politicians know it. Remember, politicians are self-centered, amoral, egotistical narcissists and their only goal is to be re-elected. Any gun control in our near future will be creeping incrementalism. Look at CA, MA, NY and such. Magazine capacity limits, federal waiting periods, local ordnances stricter than state law--that's what we're facing.

So, take a breath, relax, and get back to the fight! Get involved in local politics and make sure your state rep/senator is gun friendly; make sure your federal rep/senator is gun friendly. Become a one-issue voter if you must. And, there is hope--SCOTUS may give us a boost in 2008; if you're a praying person, that's something to pray for.
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Whats the point in spending money in expanding if Hillary gets into office?
Eh. Congress wields far more influence over the course of our gun laws than the President does. Even if Hilary wins, the Democrat-controlled Congress has a piss-poor record up to this point, which gives me a strong feeling we can take back one or both houses next year. That's where our rights will be secured or lost, regardless of who's in the Oval Office.
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NDS makes an excellent point. The mere fact of an anti-gun candidate being elected (and aside from Fred, that seems to be all that are running) does not automatically equal more gun laws. Gun control has cooled off dramatically over the last few years because the anti-gun contingent has seen that it is a losing political issue. Anti-gun = being voted out, and no politician wants that.

As NDS points out, politicians are in it solely for money, influence and self-advancement. If something threatens their gravy train, they start getting nervous. Being anti-gun has been shown to get people tossed out of office, so the anti's have cooled it.

That having been said, don't think for a second that the anti's have gone away. Far from it. They have just changed their tactics from blatant attacks like the AWB and junk lawsuits to creeping incrementalism. They still want our guns, but instead of trying to abrogate the 2nd outright, they are making end runs like those in California.

Example: microstamping. Gov. Schwarzenegger just signed into law a bill which requires that as of 1/1/2010, all guns sold in California must be equipped with a means of microstamping the gun's serial number on each cartridge case fired. Ostensibly, this is to allow police to match fired cases found at crime scenes with the weapon they came from. In reality, it equals a gun ban, because manufacturers are going to be very disinterested in implementing new and expensive technology just to satisfy the law in one state. Come 2010, you will see a dramatic reduction in the number of guns marketed in California.

We won't see BATFE storm troopers kicking in doors on a wholesale basis for a while yet, but the gun haters are still alive and well. They're just being a lot more subtle.
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If we're gonna ban guns then let us rejoice gather the anti weapon people up and attach a bobbed off extension cord to their genitals then plug it in to the outlet. Come on let's give them a reason so they can ban extension cords next. Sorry for the sourcasim but they tick me off to no end.
Enough thread hijack guys....
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Any updates? If they are going to produce these by middle of 08 I would think they would be testing by now or at least pretty soon.
Will they look like the current line up? Will HP make ATI rejoice for another stock facelift? Will the Magazine be in the handle or in front of the triggergaurd ala the Chicago Typewriter?
Hopefully the make it compatable with grease gun mags.
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