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As a reward for being a good boy today and doing chores, I decided to take a visit to one of my favorite LGS's, Olde English Outfitters. I figured that I would look and see what sort of owb leather they had to fit my upcoming wheel gun. You know, support the local guys before you buy online or the local guys will dry up and go away. Sadly they had none but I decided, as long as I was there, I'd eyeball the LCP MAX and see if I liked it or if it felt the same as the Taurus 738 TCP. It just so happened that they had a lightly used one, under glass, for $280. Well shoot! I didn't bring my hobby money with me, expecting only to pay under $60 or so for leather if they had it (hopefully under $40). So put that rascal on layaway. I guess I'm going to go back early next week and finish it out. I already have ammo and a pocket holster that it will fit so I'm just going to need to find a spare magazine or two.

I still need to decide what to do for my "treat yourself" gun.

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I think you will like the LCP Max. I want to hear your review.

For me, a big factor in the little 380’s being pleasant to shoot is the width of the grip side to side. The original LCP was very thin and I always thought it stung the hand. While my brothers carried the LCP, I carried the TCP which had a wider grip and was easier to shoot, among other things that I thought was wrong with the LCP.

Ruger fixed all the shortcomings of the LCP with the LCP II, and I went to the Elsea Pea Dos as my primary pocket carry. My guess is the LCP Max is going to be the cream of the crop, not just for capacity, but for manageability as well.

I had my LCP Max on the display case starting to fill out the papers when I realized that the slide would not lock to the rear. There was not another in the case and I just never got around to buying one. The Micro 9 craze got in the way.
 

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I had my LCP Max on the display case starting to fill out the papers when I realized that the slide would not lock to the rear. There was not another in the case and I just never got around to buying one. The Micro 9 craze got in the way.
You'll just have to wait for the LCP Max II to come out. I'm sure it's already in development.
 

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You'll just have to wait for the LCP Max II to come out. I'm sure it's already in development.
I do like the 380 cartridge. And I have it in a couple of pocket pistols, the Ruger and a a KAHR. To me though, the 380 is nothing more than a baby 45. It started with a Colt 1908 and a Star Model D. My Favorite 380 pistols today are the Browning Black Label closely followed by the Beretta 85. The ubiquitous pocket pistol to me really means a 22 rimfire my favorite today being the Taurus Poly, the LCP II Lite Rack, and the NAA Mini.

All that said, I am looking forward to the LCP Max II you speak of. Details of what you think it will be please. :p
 

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I used to live in New Carlisle, OH. Olde English is a GREAT shop. Bunch of knowledgeable people, experienced LEOs and nice folk. If this is your location, go visit them. I just started into guns in 2016 when prices were dropping. Bought a lot of stuff from them. My 995, a bunch of Rugers, ammo, tools, gear - whatever. Miss being able to visit - live in N OH now.
 

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I used to live in New Carlisle, OH. Olde English is a GREAT shop. Bunch of knowledgeable people, experienced LEOs and nice folk. If this is your location, go visit them. I just started into guns in 2016 when prices were dropping. Bought a lot of stuff from them. My 995, a bunch of Rugers, ammo, tools, gear - whatever. Miss being able to visit - live in N OH now.
My father and grandfather helped build that structure. First gun I bought was from there and old Mr. English recognized my name and asked after my grandfather. :)

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I picked it up on Monday afternoon. No range trip yet. The trigger is a tad better than a stock glock trigger but not much. A fair amount of take-up and no "breaks like glass" wall thereafter. The wall is probably 5.5 lbs at a guess (I'll put my scale on it later) and it drags through the wall for probably 1/16", which kinda feels like forever when your paying attention to it. It'll never be a Colt Mustang trigger but it's vastly better than the long DAO of the Taurus TCP 738 or the KelTec P3AT / P32.

It's definitely taller than the TCP, even with the 10-round mag, mostly because the baseplate on the 10 has a pinky extension. I might look around and see if I can find a non-pinky-extension baseplate for it. Most people like the extra length on the grip because it gives them a better hold. But I never needed it on my TCP or my P32 and it makes draw from a pocket easier. But the sights do add a smidge to the height as well.

There is simply no comparison on the sights. The LCP MAX sights are better than the sights for any other palm-sized pocket 380 I've ever handled. Period. They are real, drifted in, sights in comparison to the TCP (and most every other) milled in itty-bitty sights. I painted my TCP sights with high-contrast model paint. The LCP MAX has a nice sized rear U-notch and a genuine radioactive front sight (which, as all radioactive sights do, will need replaced in a few years). For academic reasons, I wonder if it'll take the super micronized RDS designed to fit in a glock dovetail? Hmm...

I think I'm going to try to stoke it with the Underwood loading of the Lehigh Defense Xtreme Penetrator 380 loads. Those have been show to approximate 9mm Luger performance in jello tests.

I'm hoping to get to the range tomorrow and I'll try to post up some comparison photos.

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Scrutinize the installation of your rear sight before going. Many are crooked. Mine is.
 
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I got out to the range with it today. I was limited on time so I just did a reliability test. No malfunctions at all with two different types of ammo. GTG on that front. I could wish to be a lot more accurate with it, however. Despite the relatively good sights, my accuracy at 35 feet was not what I want. Let's just say that I will NOT be sharing the targets on the internet. :( Still, at closer ranges it was certainly accurate enough. I could put all rounds in that 4x6 index card at 15 feet but that's not really "good enough" in my estimation. I guess the Red Dot on the MC2sc has me spoiled.

The only other notable was that the blasted thing gave me trigger pinch every single time. Didn't matter where I placed my finger or how hard I gripped the pistol. It always pinched during recoil. Fortunately, it wasn't so hard as to draw blood but it was a little unpleasant.

Pics in a few.

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So here it is side-by-side with the pocket 380 it is replacing, the Taurus TCP 738. The profile is very nearly identical. The LCP MAX is just a tad taller because of the sights and the 10-round baseplate. But it's close enough.

Trigger Wood Air gun Gun barrel Gun accessory


One of the things which kept popping into my mind is another gun I carried for a short while with a 12-round capacity, the CZ82. The CZ83 is identical except chambered in .380ACP so it can be considered a direct competitor as a 12-round 380 handgun. Here is the LCP MAX beside the CZ82. There is a pretty dramatic size difference.

Air gun Trigger Gun barrel Wood Gun accessory


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I got out to the range with it today. I was limited on time so I just did a reliability test. No malfunctions at all with two different types of ammo. GTG on that front. I could wish to be a lot more accurate with it, however. Despite the relatively good sights, my accuracy at 35 feet was not what I want. Let's just say that I will NOT be sharing the targets on the internet. :( Still, at closer ranges it was certainly accurate enough. I could put all rounds in that 4x6 index card at 15 feet but that's not really "good enough" in my estimation. I guess the Red Dot on the MC2sc has me spoiled.

The only other notable was that the blasted thing gave me trigger pinch every single time. Didn't matter where I placed my finger or how hard I gripped the pistol. It always pinched during recoil. Fortunately, it wasn't so hard as to draw blood but it was a little unpleasant.

Pics in a few.

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On your trigger finger? You using just the tip or knuckle deep.
 

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On your trigger finger? You using just the tip or knuckle deep.
"Just the tip."

Pad of the finger, not quite mid-pad.

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"Just the tip."

Pad of the finger, not quite mid-pad.

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As pervy as I made it. Look for a burr that got missed. Those types of triggers can also be ill fitted so when depressed they leave a gap that bites your finger. The only way to fix it is to change out the trigger to a new one or flat trigger.
 

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As pervy as I made it. Look for a burr that got missed. Those types of triggers can also be ill fitted so when depressed they leave a gap that bites your finger. The only way to fix it is to change out the trigger to a new one or flat trigger.
Or change out the gun for a Sig or a CZ with a real trigger….🤣
 
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I just bought a Sig Romeo Zero, and a slide to hold it. Cost as much as some of the cheaper 9mm guns. Definitely more than a Hi Point.😂. Makes my 365 even better. Not to mention making it two tone, the slide is brown.

But I don’t have to aim it, I just point it, and it is easy to carry. It’s my “perfect concealed gun”….it completes me.🤣
 

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I just bought a Sig Romeo Zero, and a slide to hold it. Cost as much as some of the cheaper 9mm guns. Definitely more than a Hi Point.😂. Makes my 365 even better. Not to mention making it two tone, the slide is brown.

But I don’t have to aim it, I just point it, and it is easy to carry. It’s my “perfect concealed gun”….it completes me.🤣
Till you find the next gun
 
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