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Not looking for dramatic quantity of reloads or loads. Just trying to get started in a slow way and acquire new skills. I was going to buy a Lee Classic Hand loader for 9mm for my C9 and soon to be 995. I dropped Lee an email and got a reply that the reloads are not for semis. Now, how can that be? I've never seen a non-semi 9mm. Are they talking about single action bolt? Or, are they just doing a CYA?

Am I barking up the wrong tree on the hand loader? I've done some research and seen the videos of how to use one. What say folks?
 

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im not sure but id start out with a single stage press kit instead of the hand loader. its alot simpler and less work intensive. go for the lee anniversary kit and you'll never look back.

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Get a Lee Hand Press and a set of Lee 9mm dies. They offer this as a kit.
You can then use other dies in the press to load other rounds.

I live in a small house with no place to put a press. The Lee hand press
has worked perfectly foe me. I use it to load .38/.357 and 40 S&W. I can
do aout 50 rounds an hour on it.

You won't regret it.

All the Best.
 

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Regardless of type............ anyone know why Lee would tell him any of their loaders were not recommended for semiautomatics?
 

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i cant find anything on the lee site that says anything about not being able to load auto ammo on a hand press. id call back and get a confirmation and a reson on that one.

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Not looking for dramatic quantity of reloads or loads. Just trying to get started in a slow way and acquire new skills. I was going to buy a Lee Classic Hand loader for 9mm for my C9 and soon to be 995. I dropped Lee an email and got a reply that the reloads are not for semis. Now, how can that be? I've never seen a non-semi 9mm. Are they talking about single action bolt? Or, are they just doing a CYA?

Am I barking up the wrong tree on the hand loader? I've done some research and seen the videos of how to use one. What say folks?
I have one and have had no problems with it, (but you do want to buy their priming tool - putting in primers with a rod and hammer is a pain, especially when you set off a few.)
They don't recommend the Lee loader for semi-auto rifles because in the rifle calibers, they only do a neck resizing. However, with the 9mm, it resizes the entire case, and will work fine. I'm still using mine while I wait for my backordered christmas gifts (press kit and dies) to arrive. The lee auto-prime was the best cash I have spent. Many don't like the lee loader, but it's a good way to get started. If you decide to go that route, you should get the lee loader, a auto-prime, chamfer tool, and the case trimmer and gauge. Also, if you decide to go with the lee loader, send me a message and I'll give you some tips on how to speed up processing with it.
 

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Silicon Wolverine: Yes. I meant the hand press to be used with the plastic mallet.

Here is the cut and paste quote that I got from Pat at Lees Precision:

"The Lee Loader in 9mm does full length resize the cartridge case; Lee Loaders for bottleneck rifle cartridges neck size only and shouldn't be used in semi-autos. Thank you for considering Lee Precision."
 

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Drezac: I understand now.

Thanks everybody for the help and the tips and I will return and take people up on their offers of tips when I'm ready to produce.
 

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Looks like another problem solved. Are you guys good or what?? Nice teamwork!
 

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I used to know someone who would take the original Lee loaders and use a bottle capper instead of a mallet. It worked much easier. But the old bottle cappers are hard to find.

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Silicon Wolverine: Yes. I meant the hand press to be used with the plastic mallet.

Here is the cut and paste quote that I got from Pat at Lees Precision:

"The Lee Loader in 9mm does full length resize the cartridge case; Lee Loaders for bottleneck rifle cartridges neck size only and shouldn't be used in semi-autos. Thank you for considering Lee Precision."
So I wonder why they make a Lee Loader for .45 acp?
 

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Delmar,

The 45ACP, form Lee or anyone else, resizes the full cartridge length from top to bottom since it is a straight cartridge. Many rifle cartridges are "necked down" and reloading dies only size the top end of the case not the whole thing like most pistol ammo.
 

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Delmar,

The 45ACP, form Lee or anyone else, resizes the full cartridge length from top to bottom since it is a straight cartridge. Many rifle cartridges are "necked down" and reloading dies only size the top end of the case not the whole thing like most pistol ammo.
I still don't understand why Lee says they shouldn't be used on semi autos.
 

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Because it only neck resizes the case can become swollen from use in diff guns and not fit in the chamber right. This would not be as much of a problem if you were reloading only your own brass that was only shot in one gun! This can even be a problem for bolt actions if you load pickups or for more than one gun!
 

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Delmar,

Get a couple of reloading books or manuals and they will answer your questions much better than I ever could. I suggest "The ABC's of Reloading" and "Modern Reloading". The latter is written by Richard Lee and is very much a promotional book for his products and company but also offers very detailed explanations of the reloading process and how the process works.
 

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The confusion seems to be not to use the Lee Classic Loader on semi-auto firearms where the gauge is such only the neck is sized. Seems that their verbiage/wording could be better and more clear. I ordered a Lee Classic Loader in 9mm from Cabelas for $21.99 and the shipping was only $5.45. For under $28.00 delivered this is worth a try for me. It was back ordered with expected arrival/restock at Cabelas of Feb 28, 2009.
 

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I am a reloading rookie but I "think" that the Lee Loader only neck sizes RIFLE brass, but full length resizes most straight-wall PISTOL brass, like many semi-autos use?

I stand ready to be properly corrected by those that use the simple Lee Loader.
 

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"I am a reloading rookie but I "think" that the Lee Loader only neck sizes RIFLE brass, but full length resizes most straight-wall PISTOL brass, like many semi-autos use?"

This is correct. That is what I was trying to say above.

For those looking for very good bullet prices that include shipping see:
http://www.bulletsdirect.com/index.htm

For example: 500 9mm RNL are $32.00 and 1,000 got for $51. This price is WITH shipping.
 
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