Less Lethal self defense "gun" coming to market through Indiegogo

How long before there's a redneck on youtube seasoning his BBQ with one?

 

"the Salt rounds can not only be used to shoot an assailant directly, but can also lay down a cloud 4-5 feet in diameter that acts as a barrier against attack...

Yeah....right.

A piece of paper is a "barrier"...and might be just as good.

 

BS... I've pepper sprayed drunks and drugged up subjects that it had zero effect on, if anything it p1$$ed them off more and they fought harder. The bigger issue is also that the person using it is going to get the OC as well, especially if it is inside a residence. Unless they have been exposed to OC previously, they are not going to know how to handle the exposure and/or fight through it.

Crowd funding an existing product is just a scam for the uninformed and foolish to throw away their money on.


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am i missing something?

They say it can be used in close quarters where spray and tasers cannot?

But also say it puts a cloud 4 to 5 feet in diameter? Wouldn't that mean you are going to incapacitate yourself as well?

 

I was thinking this. How many times do we here that it takes MULTIPLE hits to stop someone. meaning that bullets have literally broken the bones and burst organs and skin. They are still moving toward you. BUT this magic salt will stop them?

Come on. Way to steal poor inner city folks money who are afraid of guns, but see this as an defense

 

Not sure how this is different than...

 

Well, lets see...

gun vs squirt bottle
Powder vs spray
Sights vs point and spray
$400 vs $20...

I see a HUGE difference, don't you?

 

At least it's got a tactical rail.....

 

Flash said it. And your going to get exposed to it.

 

Thing I don't like about this less then lethal stuff is how close you need to get for it to ( even) work.
Some guy is coming at you with a knife and now you need to be level headed enough to wait till he gets close enough and then get a decent shot off.
Good luck with that.
Especially with zero training.
It's a $400 feel good is what that is.

 

I grind chili peppers to make chili powder twice a year. I am standing in a room full of pepper dust including habenero. Most is does is make my eyes burn and nose run...

 

I just clicked the link. Dated today, it states Indiegogo has dropped them. Then their answer to who ever contributed.

Also, I can see where a few in Chicago proper would be interested. I may be incorrect, but I do not think anyone can have a handgun in Chicago itself. Some burbs the same.

This may have changed since I last heard though. Anyone in IL know what Chicago is doing on handguns today?

 

It better be better than decent, it better go through his eyeball into his brain.

I mean think about it...bad guy is rushing you, you shoot him square in the chest, the powder ball pops...and he runs through that 4 foot cloud and jabs his blade into you before the silly stuff has any effect, at all.

You are totally right about feel good. But I think it's more about the guys looking for funding who plan on feeling good on the money they get from investors.:rofl:

 

Frankly I have to agree with the idea that this is a ineffective feel good item . This "paintball gun" is not something you can keep at the ready for a emergency .

You can't load a 12 gram CO2 cartridge and rely on it to still have pressure hours later let alone days later for the gun to function (there is always a leak even if it can not be detected ).

Also in my experience with paintball the shells are biodegradable and will break down due to humidity . There are at least some that are permeable and will allow moisture in and out of the shell and in a humid environment the powder may may not stay in powder form . I have also seen seen balls bust or deform due to temperature change.

Now do I think this will take off no it's been tried before . A few walmarts here in indiana carried the http://prime-guard.com/ stuff and it sold like soiled diapers last I checked the Plainfield walmart still had 1 of the 3 pistols and 3 of the 3 "shotguns" they got in over a year ago so now everything is on clearance with a red tag . Funny thing is even on clearance the shotgun was still over $220 and setting right next to a H&R Partner protector 12ga priced at $179.00 ish

https://youtu.be/IqZuQz47sYY?t=2m28s

https://youtu.be/VgTjEndAqt4?t=6s

 

I have a Penguin tear gas pen (hey, it was cool!) and my wife has pepper spray. Guess what I'm going for if somebody comes in at 3AM?

It rhymes with bland nun.

 

The Colt Gas Pen's are cool also and can still be had for ~$50. They are a neat addition to a collection.

 

I've used mace and pepper spray on subjects with zero effect because they're so high or drunk they don't realize it. I've also had the stuff blow, splash, or when the guy you just sprayed decides to wrestle with you get on me at which time you're the one who's blinded. Great idea, BUT I'm not so sure I'd stake my life on it, especially when there's rounds made just for this type of situation it's supposed to help avoid.