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Gotta start getting EQ for my new range toy.

I've been lurking the FiveseveNForum and it looks like the general feel is that Lee Precision was making a functional die set but changed something and now isn't. RCBS dies are 50/50 hit-or-miss. Hornady seems to get good marks and the custom die makers CH4D get top grade. I'm looking seriously at the Hornady but I've also by eyeballing the Lyman dies. I only see one user mention that he's using it, but he likes it. "BUFFMAN" has posted a lot of YooToob content on the 5.7 which seems to pass community muster so I guess he speaks with some authority. Looks like "panzier"/Elite Ammunition, another accepted authority on that board, hasn't tried it.

Any experience here using Lyman dies?

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Sorry.
Only have experience using Lee Precision dies and equipment.
I started out with the Lee Load-all for shotshells and moved up to a Lee Progressive for pistol and rifle.

So, no help.

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Sorry.
Only have experience using Lee Precision dies and equipment.
I started out with the Lee Load-all for shotshells and moved up to a Lee Progressive for pistol and rifle.

So, no help.

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Sorry. Have to ask. If no help, then why post? Just bragging?
 

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I have a few sets of Lyman. I look at them as equal to RCBS
 
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Those guys are all well informed about the dies, but what did they say about the special coating the cases need? Do they have a way to restore or replace it with something as effective?
 

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Sorry.
Only have experience using Lee Precision dies and equipment.
I started out with the Lee Load-all for shotshells and moved up to a Lee Progressive for pistol and rifle.

So, no help.

Rerun
The current consensus, from what I can tell, among the 5.7x28 reloading community is that the first design of the Lee dies was fine. Then Lee redesigned it for unknown reasons and the current 5.7x28 dies from them aren't dependable.

That's why I'm looking at Lyman dies.
 
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The current consensus, from what I can tell, among the 5.7x28 reloading community is that the first design of the Lee dies was fine. Then Lee redesigned it for unknown reasons and the current 5.7x28 dies from them aren't dependable.

That's why I'm looking at Lyman dies.
Maybe,
Lee found a way to make the process of producing the 5.7 dies easier for them.

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It changed the dies so much so that they aren't as good as they once were due to the new process.

Feedback to Lee could make a difference.

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Maybe,
Lee found a way to make the process of producing the 5.7 dies easier for them.

But,
It changed the dies so much so that they aren't as good as they once were due to the new process.

Feedback to Lee could make a difference.

Rerun
Orrrr......stay with me here......you can just get the dies that are available, and that work, so you don't have to wait 3 years for someone to decide to fix what they screwed up?

They all have great customer service, and if ANY round might need some "better" quality dies, it might be 5.7.

I mean...given the cost of the ammo, even a set of the most expensive dies would be offset pretty quickly.
 

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Orrrr......stay with me here......you can just get the dies that are available, and that work, so you don't have to wait 3 years for someone to decide to fix what they screwed up?

They all have great customer service, and if ANY round might need some "better" quality dies, it might be 5.7.

I mean...given the cost of the ammo, even a set of the most expensive dies would be offset pretty quickly.
Ayup.

Yer probably right, as usual.

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Orrrr......stay with me here......you can just get the dies that are available, and that work, so you don't have to wait 3 years for someone to decide to fix what they screwed up?

They all have great customer service, and if ANY round might need some "better" quality dies, it might be 5.7.
I've had really good experiences with Lee but there have been an instance or two where the product was messed up. Lee resolved the issue fast. But you are right that 5.7x28 is finicky enough as it stands that I want to be careful about it. It's not a .223 die.

I mean...given the cost of the ammo, even a set of the most expensive dies would be offset pretty quickly.
You ain't just whistle'n Dixie! When I first started looking into it I knew it was a more expensive round. I was figuring that it would probably be in line with 5.56, more or less, because of common components, etc. Turns out that it's more in line with .308 ammo! That nearly put me off of it right there. Paying rifle ammo prices for pistol ammo?!?! o_O But then I realized that I was happily considering the Ruger SFAR in .308 and wasn't upset about ammo costs. Once that realization hit me, I stopped worrying so much about the 100% fact that 5.7 ammo is that much more expensive than, say, 9mm or something. Lowest costs for factory new 5.7 is still less than .44 Mag or .45 Colt. 'Sides, reloading may be able to take it down to .380 costs. ;)

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I remember whe the ammo wasn't expensive. I thought about getting into it. Then thought it doesn't really do anything that my other calibers do. Other than higher mag count. But for the cost offset for the guns I could buy a lot of mags and ammo for other calibers. Now the reloading issues, which I didn't know about I'm glad I passed
 

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Just broke out the ‘ole reloading calculator. Using data from Hodgdon and figuring on 40 grain Hornady V-Max you can reload 1 round of 5.7x28 for .55 cents. Assuming you discount any cost for brass. The ammo in the @ajole shared costs .91 cents for 1 round. A savings of .36 cents per round. A set of Hornady New Dimension dies cost $60. Therefore the ROI for the dies is met with the loading of 167 rounds. Again that’s taking into account the Kirk only needs the dies, I am pretty sure he has everything else he needs.
 

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Just broke out the ‘ole reloading calculator. Using data from Hodgdon and figuring on 40 grain Hornady V-Max you can reload 1 round of 5.7x28 for .55 cents. Assuming you discount any cost for brass. The ammo in the @ajole shared costs .91 cents for 1 round. A savings of .36 cents per round. A set of Hornady New Dimension dies cost $60. Therefore the ROI for the dies is met with the loading of 167 rounds. Again that’s taking into account the Kirk only needs the dies, I am pretty sure he has everything else he needs.
I'm not sure I have the appropriate powder and I know I don't have anything in .223 lighter than 55 gr. But those are consumables and I might be able to find a load for powder that I already have.

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I'm not sure I have the appropriate powder and I know I don't have anything in .223 lighter than 55 gr. But those are consumables and I might be able to find a load for powder that I already have.

Peace favor your sword,
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Hodgdon says AA #5 is good, I just happened to have some on hand. It is out of stock, but they say Ramshot True Blue is a good powder too. And it is in stock. Just have to find a shop that Carrie’s it.

You can save another .12 or .14 cents per round by using 22 Hornet bullets. I figured they would not fee, but they are in the load data as a component.
 
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Hodgdon says AA #5 is good, I just happened to have some on hand. It is out of stock, but they say Ramshot True Blue is a good powder too. And it is in stock. Just have to find a shop that Carrie’s it.
Printed manual? All I see on their online data is No. 5, No. 7, and True Blue.

You can save another .12 or .14 cents per round by using 22 Hornet bullets. I figured they would not fee, but they are in the load data as a component.
The 40 gr. Sierra?

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