I load my 5.7 with Hornady dies on a Lee Challenger press. Most of my other handgun rounds are done a Dillon 550 . I also have rcbs and keep dies for 5.7 but got the best results with the Hornady
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I also just picked up some TUI solid 43 gn. Bullets. I'm going to spray them with Moly to help reduce pressure then set up a "Paul Harrell" meat target to see what they do
The 27gn green tip ammo will penetrate level lll body armor. It's very difficult to try and duplicate that performance with hand loads at safe pressure. I'm playing with solid copper bullets from Ft.Scott and a couple others but the known powders are not pushing them fast enough with safe pressure to do the job. The TUI ( tumble on impact) design is interesting.
For self defense I look at Lehigh defense or cutting edge bullets.
Have you looked at Load Data.com?
I wasn't aware that all of Pearce's stuff was publicly available nor was i aware Lyman had these listings. I'll be buying that as well. They are the first outside of Western that is listing loads( Western, Accurate, Hodgeon, same thing)Turns out that they don't have any data for the 5.7 which isn't publicly available. They have the same data which Hodgdon lists, covering #5, #7, and True Blue, and they have the data from the Brian Pearce data set which covers a lot more powders (#5, #7, #9, True Blue, W-N105, Power Pistol, Universal) and one or two more bullets. It's publicly available and Mr. Pearce says that he had the loads pressure tested and has start and max load, COAL, etc. But it's all publicly available and I've downloaded the PDF for his article and Hodgdon has their data online.
For load data which isn't publicly available, I should have bought the Lyman Reloading Manual. Starting at 49th edition, they list data for the 5.7. It includes data for N340, 800X, HS-7, Blue Dot, and I'm not sure what else. I've stumbled across a couple of instances where someone took a pic or video of their Lyman book so I can see some of the load data so I could build loads for those, but I don't think it's the whole section. I should have spent the $30 on Lyman 51, or at least a used Lyman 50.
I guess it doesn't matter anyway because I've decided to use #7 and bought a pound of that from the LGS. There's plenty of load data available for that and I have a good place to start.
Dadgum!, but gearing up to load for 5.7 is turning out to be expensive.
New powder (#7) $40
different (Maker) bullets $50
Hornady dies $70
Lee Case Length Gauge & Shell Holder (because I already have the cutting stud system) $12
Sheridan case gauge $46
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$218
Of course, if I can get a load that closely replicates the performance of the Speer Gold Dot ammo, that will pay for itself in about 3 boxes of ammo.
And I also bought 250 once fired cases for an extra $50+shipping.
Fortunately, I already have small pistol primers.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
I also load for a bunch of different calibers so Load Data.com comes in handy for comparison on powders, bullets, velocity, etc.
BTW I did write to Maker and tell them that I referred you and now a bunch of people on several forums know how you got screwed on shipping and that I don't care if he can't stop UPS from charging what they do, if he wants to stay in business he better warn his customers and /or change shipping options!
Admittedly, I haven't checked in a while. I got wrapped up making brass and working up loads for my 300 Ham'r for hunting season. It's a Bill Wilson caliber with proprietary rounds that I couldn't get during season so I made some up. I just pulled the trigger on the 51st Lyman book. It should be here Sunday so I'll share when I can.It was one of the first that I found. A google on "reload 5.7x28 pearce" gives the first hit to the full pdf, with the data charts:
(off site link to pdf)
Maybe it was supposed to be hidden or something, but it's not.
I didn't either.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
I don't either but that was ridiculous! Any good businessman knows that one bad word travels around at least 50 more times than a good one so I hope he gets the message.
Yeah the barrel was the most expensive part of the build but I got mine 2 years ago and paid north of $250 for a 16.2" Ranger w/1-13 twist. Luckily I caught a break on a matched Billet 17 Design upper and lower along with a Faxon Handguard and buffer assy, ,Odinworks Nickle Boron BCG and tunable gas block w/ tube, and even a custom dust cover that says something like Duck Fiden! when it's closed and two middle fingers when it's open. I also got a really good deal on a first focal plane scope from Vector and now it's my favorite hunting gun for deer. With the right bullet setup (my favorite so far is 130gn. Barnes TTSX and CFE Black powder). It's superior ballistically to the 30-30, 7.62, and the 300 BO by a considerable margin. It's basically between the .308 and the 30-30. I'm hoping Bill opens up the Patent on it so someone can make it cheaper although I will say that this thing is extremely accurate.The 300 Ham'r looks like a really neat cartridge. I bought my 300 BLK before it came out or I would have given it more consideration. That said, last I looked Wilson was the only ones making a barrel for it and, from the price, it must have been dipped in gold or something.
I don't get it. You replicate a cartridge with the ballistics, including all the ballistic limitations (range, drop, etc.) of a 30-30, and then price the barrels as if they're precision long range barrels? That's gotta impact market penetration of what is already a niche cartridge.
I dunno, maybe their prices have change since then or someone else is making barrels now. <shrug> Anyway, it's a neat cartridge. I think @greg_r has one.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Dirty, ineffective ammo. It's best use is for tearing down to get the brass and reload.
Normally so do I, but if you want virgin brass which is ideal for a high pressure small cartridge with very malleable brass, there is none available which is why Jay at Elite Ammunition tears it down without shooting it (unless something's changed).
What's a Lyndon?
So, it's an AR not a pistol?
Yeah, I thought about building one but I already have a 5.56 so it seemed like a moot point The American eagle ammo out of a 5" barrel is pretty dirty and it just plain under performs any other 5.7 ammo. I shoot a lot of it when I take one of my pistols out to the range or my cabin so I'd rather shoot reloads which will burn cleaner and outperform the AE.
You don't buy a 5.7x28mm to be a plinker! You can accomplish that much cheaper and easier with a .22. I can't speak for Kirk but my reasoning was to purchase one to use as intended if (god forbid) the need ever arose. If you were to look up the history of the round maybe you would understand.
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