I let my Dad & brother talk me into going to a local gun show. I ran into a few people I knew from the internet. All in all, some dealers had their guns priced to take home, while others had theirs priced to sell or willing to negotiate? Found some decent prices on some ammo. NO Hi Points & the 22LR were $65 a brick. It cost me $7 to get in, and the only thing I bought was some snake oil to remove scratches from my glasses. But hey, it worked! My Dad & brother both took Ruger pistols to sell, & both were sold. For some reason they seem to be on this Ruger Challenger kick? My older brother bought on Friday & now everybody wants one, makes no sense to me!