Missouri Democrats propose law giving gun owners 90 days to turn in weapons

Discussion in '2nd Amendment' started by tallbump, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member


  2. Moestooge

    Moestooge Member

    This one won't make it out of committee, but I hope the drooling idiot socialists who came up with this bill are put on the unemployment line.

  3. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    Haven't heard that yet.... I believe they just ended their careers in MO.
  4. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member


    I have a better chance of making it to second base with Jessica Alba than this does of getting any traction in Missouri!

    Peace favor your sword,
  5. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    Sigh....... There will be no pics coming then......
    I don't get where this ones coming from.... We've been moving the other way for a while, and this one would be way, way out there in the other direction.
    Edit..... Upon further reading of the article, MO conservatives have a super majority.... This is gonna end bad for some of the introducers of this bill.
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  6. hahaha, bills like these make me laugh.
  7. Wirh all the big Gov. Commies this country has bills like this make me cringe. MO may have a super majority today but things change. I never expected CO to do what they did either.
  8. Back2School

    Back2School Member

    I bet if it passes, most gun owners in MO will still like MO better than KS

  9. Atomic_Ed

    Atomic_Ed Member

    Item d. would include every rifle that has a forearm. That's every rifle that I know of; sporting, target, etc.
  10. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    If it passes, I'd consider Kansas.... I have that much faith it ain't passing....
  11. greg_r

    greg_r Lifetime Supporter

    I think this is old news. Story is from the first part of 2013
  12. GoesBang

    GoesBang Supporting Member

    Bull, didn't we just vote and pass to amend our State constitution?

    Ensuring the citizen's right to own and bear arms?


    Voters pass Missouri gun rights amendment
    August 05, 2014

    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — Missouri voters have approved an amendment enhancing the state's constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

    The passage Tuesday of Constitutional Amendment 5 will expand state gun rights to cover ammunition and other accessories. It also will declare those rights to be "unalienable" and require any gun-control restrictions to be subject to strict legal scrutiny.

    The amendment was referred to the ballot by Missouri's Republican-led Legislature, which has pursued numerous pro-gun measures in recent years.

    Opponents ran no advertising campaign against it but had challenged the measure unsuccessfully in court. They said the ballot wording failed to inform voters of all of the amendment's key provisions, including the fact that it deletes current constitutional wording allowing restrictions on concealed guns.
  13. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    Yup..... But you know liberals don't let things like laws, and constitutional rights stand in their way.
  14. GoesBang

    GoesBang Supporting Member

    Official Ballot Title:

    Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to include a declaration that the right to keep and bear arms is a unalienable right and that the state government is obligated to uphold that right?

    State and local governmental entities should have no direct costs or savings from this proposal. However, the proposal’s passage will likely lead to increased litigation and criminal justice related costs. The total potential costs are unknown, but could be significant.

    Fair Ballot Language:

    A "yes" vote will amend the Missouri Constitution to expand the right to keep and bear arms to include ammunition and related accessories for such arms. This amendment also removes the language that states the right to keep and bear arms does not justify the wearing of concealed weapons. This amendment does not prevent the legislature from limiting the rights of certain felons and certain individuals adjudicated as having a mental disorder.

    A "no"; [sic] vote will not amend the Missouri Constitution regarding arms, ammunition, and accessories for such arms.

    If passed, this measure will have no impact on taxes.
  15. GoesBang

    GoesBang Supporting Member

    Underlined is new language
    Red is stricken

    Section 23. That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms, ammunition, and accessories typical to the normal function of such arms, in defense of his home, person, family and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons. The rights guaranteed by this section shall be unalienable. Any restriction on these rights shall be subject to strict scrutiny and the state of Missouri shall be obligated to uphold these rights and shall under no circumstances decline to protect against their infringement. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent the general assembly from enacting general laws which limit the rights of convicted violent felons or those duly adjudged mentally infirm by a court of competent jurisdiction.
  16. Grant

    Grant Member

    And MO just passed a state constitutional amendment saying the right to own arms is now part of the state constitution. This would make this state law unconstitutional from the start.
  17. GoesBang

    GoesBang Supporting Member

    Missourians Protecting the 2nd Amendment provided the following arguments on its campaign website for Amendment 5:
    “ By updating our Right to Keep and Bear Arms, we will make sure that areas of concern for explicit use of

    - Ammunition, firearm accessories, plus the actual commerce access to such components are protected.

    - Increased protection extended to your “family” because this is not in the 1875 Provision.

    - Eliminates the outdated sentence that prohibits carry of a firearm for self-defense.

    - Adds "strict scrutiny" which is the highest level of legal protection for a constitutional right. This level of protection is reserved for rights that are deemed “unalienable or fundamental” (e.g. free speech and right to vote).

    - For decades, anti-gun judges and lawyers across America have fought tirelessly against the application of “strict scrutiny” to our fundamental Second Amendment rights.

    - Missouri’s current right to keep and bear arms provision is deemed to only deserve a “rational basis” or the lowest standard of review – virtually any rights-infringing law can pass this level of review. This will require the state of Missouri to vigorously protect your rights from federal attacks.

    - Because this proposed amendment will protect a fundamental right and will expressly acknowledge the right as “unalienable,” it naturally follows that the protected right requires the highest level of legal protection.
  18. monsterdawg

    monsterdawg Member


    No duh! ;)

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  19. Back2School

    Back2School Member

    Just goes to show you, some people can see the promised land overflowing with milk and honey, and still choose to turn around and refuse it. :cool:
  20. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    I JUST drove through southwest Kansas........ There ain't no frickin milk OR honey!