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the rear left corner of my c9's frame beats the hell out of the first knuckle of my thumb (closest to the web) . i've tried holding it different ways , i've tried putting on the hogue grip , nothing seems to work . i don't want to shoot it with gloves because i have decently small hands and it's already huge , but that rear corner of the frame is killin me . i can't get out more than 20 rounds before it hurts enough to stop shooting , anyone else have this problem ? anyone have any ideas on how to correct it ? i'd like my c9 alot more if i could shoot it more than 20 rounds at a time .
 

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the rear left corner of my c9's frame beats the hell out of the first knuckle of my thumb (closest to the web) . i've tried holding it different ways , i've tried putting on the hogue grip , nothing seems to work . i don't want to shoot it with gloves because i have decently small hands and it's already huge , but that rear corner of the frame is killin me . i can't get out more than 20 rounds before it hurts enough to stop shooting , anyone else have this problem ? anyone have any ideas on how to correct it ? i'd like my c9 alot more if i could shoot it more than 20 rounds at a time .
No problems here. :'(
 

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Sounds like the "blowback system" of the slide may be hitting your thumb. My girlfriend let this happen the first time she shot and it almost broke her thumb. Make sure it's below the level of the slide.
 

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it's not the slide that's hitting me , it's the very corner of the plastic frame when it recoils , no matter how i hold it the corner of the frame butts up against the bone of the first joint on my thumb . every time i fire it smacks the bone and by the time i have 20 rounds thru it my hand hurts too much to keep shooting . i can only assume it's because of my small-ish hands . my friend has no problem shooting it , but i've also watched how he holds it and since his hands are bigger the corner of the frame doesn't make contact with his thumb . since i can't make my hands any bigger is there anything else i can do ? i thought about filing that side of the frame down so there isn't an edge/corner , but i don't know if i'm brave enough to start hacking off hunks of frame , even if it was only $120 and has a lifetime warranty .
 

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filing that side of the frame down so there isn't an edge/corner , but i don't know if i'm brave enough to start hacking off hunks of frame ,

Well, let's look at the options. First, Filing down and edge isn't really hacking off HUNKS !

Second, keep shooting it like it is and it HURTS

Third, sell it off and buy one with a smaller grip.

I personally would go with the sanding down the edge and see if it helps....... just my $.02 worth. Good Luck.
 

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I hate to say it, but use gloves. I wear padded "Mechanix" gloves like the ones below when I hit the range. They prove most useful (for me) when it comes to hot barrels and keeping skin oil off nice blue'd finishes. I prefer mine to fit extremely tight and you shouldn't have any problem with them. Otherwise (and I'm sure you already know this) you need to modify the weapon.

 

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Can you take a picture and show us how you're holding it? Just can't see how a knuckle can even contact the frame.
 

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by knuckle i mean joint , namely the second joint from the tip of the thumb (closest to the web)





this isn't the way i hold it but it gives a better view of where it's hitting .


it's better with the slip on grip , but barely . it's got to be the size of my hand i guess , my friend has no problem shooting it , but his fingers are longer so the frame doesn't contact bone like it does with me .
 

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Honestly, I think I would change weapons.

I hate to say that, as I love my HP's... But shooting should not be uncomfortable, let alone painful...

If you're able, go to your LGS and look at many handguns, see if they fit your hand differently. Find one that doesn't touch your thumb joint like the HPs and otherwise feels comfortable. If the GS will let you test the weapon on their range before purchase, do so, even if for a fee.

If you can't do that, go to the range on a weekend when there are lots of handgunners around. Offer to trade shots with them... let them shoot your gun, you shoot theirs. Especially if you've explained why you want to do this, I think you'll find many who will take you up on the offer... Plus, many folks have never had the opportunity to shoot an HP (you know, they've been told they're junk), and would like to do so.

At least around here, a lot of people are curious about my HP at the range... if they ask me about it... I'll offer to let them shoot it, if they'll do the same for me... I've never had anyone turn me down.
 

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I agree your hand does look small in the pics. Have you tried 2 hand grip with left hand thumb on top of grip thumb, to flatten it out, with both thumbs pointing foward? Also I would think any slip-on grip would make the grip to big for small hands.
 

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My knuckle comes nowhere close to that part of the frame...............

You might try gluing a rubber pad with silicone under the frame at that point. A good type might be the non slip shelf liner sold at WalMart. It is very soft, but very tough and comes in black. Just cut it to fit and glue it on. If it doesn't work it can be removed. Good luck..
 

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i normally use the 2 hand grip , but i was the only one here and someone had to hit the button on the camera . believe it or not the slip on grip made it a little better , but not enough . maybe next time i go shooting i'll rubber cement a hunk of mouse pad on the bottom of the frame and see how that is . i have other pistols , i just wish the c9 fit my hand better . i think the grip is just too wide , it's wider than most double stacks . i can literally shoot my friends p38 and bersa 45 all day long ($$$ permitting) with no problems . damn these stumpy irish fingers of mine ! :D
 

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Thanks for the pic. Try some cyclist gloves.
 

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it looks to me like the structure of your hand bones and how they impact the edge of the frame may be the problem. id say either file/grind that egde down (its not going to void your warranty) so its comfortable or move into a different pistol. if you arent comfortable with altering it try faom weatherstripping tape to cushion it. there are guns that simply dont fit our hands right. 1911 style pistols dont fit me at all (unless i build custom grips) while glocks fit like glove. also try using layers of tape to push the base of your thumb away from the frame, a few layers at a time until its comfortable. i used to do that with bullseye pistols to get that perfect fit to my hand. if you dont want to tinker with it it probably best to try a different gun.

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I would go with Rzrbax suggestion before anything else. You can buy adhesive backed cushions in many sizes and shapes at most any hardware store cheap.
 

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from the picture that you send in the last post i can tell you are not getting a good grip of the gun, the same problem happen to my friend when i was teaching him how to shoot. i'm not an expert but i been shooting for a long time and i have seen a lot of problems from guns jamming to people getting hurt, try it this way and it may work better for your hand.

first, i see that you hold the gun with your wrist curved, the line of sight most be straight with your arm. are you left or right eye dominant? because that may be the cause of your twisting your wrist.

the other fact is that you're holding the gun by the right side more than by the center rear, this cause the barrel to turn right (are you shooting a little to the right?) and the rear to turn left (to your thumb).

try to hold it like this:



watch those videos, it explain it better than me :angel:


 

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another great video

 

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the pictures are just of where it hits me , i normally hold it better when i'm not also trying to hit the button on the camera upside down with the wrong hand ha ha . but no matter how i hold it that bone is still in the way of the frame ....or the frame is in the way of the bone ...whichever .
 

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I had the same problem with my .40 until instinctively I start gripping it different.

I thought about gloves but I don't need them anymore.
 

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Just got a C9 last weekend . I thought I had big hands , not that they are small , but it looks as though the length of my trigger finger is just short enough it requires me to roll my hand to the point I may have the same problem
 
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