Three weeks ago I knew very little about Hi Point firearms. Like most everyone else, I had heard a few people degrade them. My epiphany was when someone posted on a facebook group for gun owners that they were looking to buy a Hi Point carbine. I thought Hi Point only sold pistols, and according to my brother in law, horrible ones. Upon researching the carbines and seeing all of the great reviews, I started to really want one, and am picking my 9mm up tomorrow morning. If they have the 45 in stock, I will probably buy it too. I can't wait to try out this rifle for myself. Something that I find amusing is how many of the Hi Point owners seem to get a kick out of it when the 1911 guys put down Hi Points. It shows that for the money, there really is nothing like a Hi Point.