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I just got a SCCY 2 for edc and home defense, I like the size and 10 round capacity.
What I don't like is the snappy, nasty felt recoil, I understand it's physics, the gun only around
16 ounces, and it's a 9MM.
SO FAR- I just glued a heel pad in an old shooting glove, and hope that it offers some relief
during practice, if I ever have to fire in self defense, I'll just put up with the pain.
2ND CHOICE- I see that Galloway Prec. offers a 20 lb recoil spring that it claims lessens felt recoil, the stock spring is 16 lbs. Any SCCY owners/users ever try the spring route?
The long hard trigger is the least of my problems, MCARBO offers a trigger spring kit for $20
that reduces the trigger weight to 4.5 lbs.
 

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It might help to use a rubber grip sleeve. Making it wider helps spread recoil.
 

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You could have gone with the SCCY-3 (380) if you are recoil sensitive. I have the SCCY-1, SCCY-2 and the SCCY-3 and find none of them to have a heavy recoil. If you are ever unfortunate to be involved in a self defense shooting, you will most likely not even feel the recoil or hear the shots, your body will be pumping out so much adrenaline that your field of vision will fixate on the target, your hearing will become muffled, you will not feel the recoil and time will slow.
 

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You're right, I just feel that it is almost impossible to find .380 ammo these days, or pay a super-premium for it. And I like the 9mm round better.
 

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If everyone would include where they are located and allow it to be shown, you may find that some folks might step up and help each other out with things like needed repair items and/or ammunition when things get scarce. I know some folks on here who are well stocked with such things. They may not sell hundreds of rounds, but may provide enough for standard self defense. Without knowing where someone is located it makes it hard to either do that or provide intel on where it may be found in your AO.
 

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I have a CPX2. Very accurate. I has made 2 trips back to the factory for repairs. It is a nice gun to carry around when working outside on the car.
It is not a range toy. It eats my first thumb knuckle into a blister then it pops. When SHTF you won't be worrying about pain in your hand. The ruber grip sounds like a good idea. Not for me as I pocket carry it sometimes and it would make it print more, and it would grab on the fabric coming out of my pocket.

I have 2 different Galloway springs for 2 different sized .40 Glocks. It turned them into being ammo finicky. Standard ammo caused lots of jams. I would caution you to think about that as right now you shoot whatever is available which is often target ammo that is wimpy.

Start doing your research for something with higher capacity, a place to hang a tactical light, and a longer barrel for home defense when you have squirreled enough money away for it.

Learning how to use a tactical flashlight without having anything to mount it on is a good thing. I took a night shooting course and nobody had a weapon mounted light. Learned 3 different techniques+room clearing and light manipulation.
 

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I had a CPX2, I got used to it the more I shot it. However, +P ammo was not much fun :)
In end, I got rid of it because of the trigger and the grip was too chunky for me.

I am looking forward to trying out one of their DVG's if I could ever find one.
 

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careful going lighter with the hammer spring on this design. its not just light strikes you have to worry about. Without a stronger recoil spring you can batter a frame. Once you up the recoil spring weight you speed up the cycle time. At that point you can overide the mag spring and need to up the weight there as well.

personally I would never touch the hammer spring. You (not you) just have to accept that its a trigger similar to a double action revolver. Thats not a bad thing as this design (unless sccy changed something) does not have a fireing pin block. These are basically keltec p11s copies which can fire if dropped just the right way.

Unless this is the new SCCY striker fired version ... I didnt think they were on the market yet though. The above post is in reguards to the cpx pistols.

This is also not a condemnation of SCCY (or keltec) pistols. IMO the p11 and its offshoots is one of the best modern designs of the last 30 years. Its a brilliant system.
 

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mag- I agree, KT pistols are very innovative, but my expereience with them has been they are not very well built, in terms of reliability and function.
 

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mag- I agree, KT pistols are very innovative, but my expereience with them has been they are not very well built, in terms of reliability and function.
The p11 is! The rest can have issues. I like the p32 as well. P11 is actually a good bit overbuilt for 9mm but IMO underbuilt for the 40s&w in the p40.

I have almost all the clones except for the sccy pistols. I did not like the early 1st get ones allthat much. The new ones are a bit better. I still dont like the way they pin the frame to the grip. Keltec and the other clones used three large pins where as Sccy chose to go with 2 small pins. This caused issues with the grips cracking at the rear pin for a while. Not sure it ever got resolved.

Keltec P11s are better IMO on materials and a few other areas ..........magazines, durability etc... but the Sccy is prettier and cleaner. They are both solid pistols though. I had to fix the extraction on a friends CPX 1 but once that was done it ran fine. You can modify mecgars for these BTW....gives you a better made magazine. I held back on the Sccys waiting for a gen 3 but I think they are going to move on to a striker system which doesnt interest me.

I will probably pick up the 9mm and the newer 380acp version being such a fan of the design. A few of the clones are not safe to shoot In my experience... The Talon and the Standard Arms SA9 are dangerous and should have never been put on the market. The Cobra (better built talon) can work but it talkes a lot of effort.

If you have any trouble hitting with them look into the aftermarket triggers. The Kelgren p11 design has a massive amount of overtravel that can really screw with your accuracy. The triggers with a trigger stop cure all that. Also.... the mag catch is plastic and can wear causing problems.. there is a stainless steel one out there that fixes that. I put these on all my P11s and cobras.

You can also jack up your magazine capacity if you know the secret formula. My p11s run 30rd magazines with 100% reliability. BTW... I ccw these (not with the 30rd mags though) when I am running. They are small and light with a lot of firepower. Perfect pistol for cardio type activities. I also use them a lot as a secondary as I modify magazines from my primary to fit both. The same can be done with the sccy.

Dont worry about the trigger weight... you get use to it. As long as its smooth you wont have a problem with some practice. In my view these little 9mm sccys and p11s are a modern versions of a DAO snubby with much more firepower.

Lube is important as with any aluminum frame... you really want TW25b. White lithium grease can work in a pinch so long as your not in too cold of an environment. Oil is a lousy lubricant for aluminum frames.
 

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I just got a SCCY 2 for edc and home defense, I like the size and 10 round capacity.
What I don't like is the snappy, nasty felt recoil, I understand it's physics, the gun only around
16 ounces, and it's a 9MM.
SO FAR- I just glued a heel pad in an old shooting glove, and hope that it offers some relief
during practice, if I ever have to fire in self defense, I'll just put up with the pain.
2ND CHOICE- I see that Galloway Prec. offers a 20 lb recoil spring that it claims lessens felt recoil, the stock spring is 16 lbs. Any SCCY owners/users ever try the spring route?
The long hard trigger is the least of my problems, MCARBO offers a trigger spring kit for $20
that reduces the trigger weight to 4.5 lbs.
I'd put in the heavier recoil spring. I did and it helped. I shoot 10 rounds out of it and said..ENOUGH. Cleaned it and put it away.

It just reassured me that a full sized pistol is the way to go. I'm not a fan of the Plastic Fantastics either. STEEL and (if I have too) aluminum. is the way to go.
 

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Plastic fantastics ARE full size. It wasn’t until after that name was a thing, that they developed the compacts and subcompacts...which are NOT plastic fantastics, but are plastic easy to carries.

I have a few polymer pocket pistols. They aren’t range toys, they aren’t plinkers, they aren’t fun. I have other guns for those purposes.

The compact polymer guns were designed to be easy to carry. Period. It’s like griping about a 1 ton pickup being rough riding when empty and too hard to park at the mall, or a Lamborghini being too hard to drive around NYC.
 

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I dont mind the modular polymer guns nearly as much as full polymer frames. Kelgren all but pioneered it. The plastic on the P11 is just a grip. Its good to see all these other manufacturers going this route.

Dont get me wrong.... my favorites are steel/aluminum frame classic with more traditional craftsmanship but The modular frame creation is brilliant. If we must go polymer thats the way to do it.

In a perfect world Titanium frames would be the norm but I dont get to make the rules.
 

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2ND CHOICE- I see that Galloway Prec. offers a 20 lb recoil spring that it claims lessens felt recoil, the stock spring is 16 lbs. Any SCCY owners/users ever try the spring route?
I've tried it on several pistols. It doesn't really help that much. And it can cause feed issues sometimes.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
 
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mag- I agree, KT pistols are very innovative, but my expereience with them has been they are not very well built, in terms of reliability and function.
My P11 has been fine, except for the 11 lb. trigger pull weight. My PF9 is a tad picky about ammo, but likes my preferred SD ammo so I don't care.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
 

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I fondled a SCCY 9mm 2 years or so ago, didn't like the wide (front to back) grip much, but it was probably just me not being used to it.
 

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I fondled a SCCY 9mm 2 years or so ago, didn't like the wide (front to back) grip much, but it was probably just me not being used to it.
I keep saying the same thing about things like triggers that are too far back for some, and Glock grip angles and general blockiness. Thumb safeties and grip safeties and DA/SA triggers could be included here.

But in the end, there are SO many choices...unless something is a SUPER good deal or a SUPER good weapon...why deal with learning to like something?

I wish people would just buy what they like, and then shut up about how the other guns were supposedly "bad" or inferior just because it didn't fit their preference or hand shape or waistline or whatever.

We don't have to like every gun out there. And we don't have to get used to them, either.
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I've been fortunate in my purchases so far, nothing has disappointed me as far as handling goes. The Beretta Model 81 with those wooden grips I put on it is about the only pistol I have that feels really bulky but I still manage to squeeze off a round or 2:

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Feels twice as thick as the Tokarev:

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I've tried it on several pistols. It doesn't really help that much. And it can cause feed issues sometimes.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
That is 2 of us. If you take out the bad guy who was trying to take you out, who cares if your hand, and ears hurt?
 

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Pocket guns are definitely not range toys as many have said here, but if you plan to carry one, you should be willing to make it your primary range gun. They can be shot accurately out to longer distances, and you can get good splits shooting controlled pairs with them. You just have to put in the time.

I have hands just big enough to palm a basketball, but my P938, and also the wife's G42, get the most range time. The key is getting the hands positioned to accommodate the smaller dimensions and really bearing down with the middle and ring fingers to keep down the snap, which frequently causes the trigger guard to beat up the side of the trigger if not controlled properly. You also have to watch how you position your thumb so the slide doesn't bite your knuckle. It's all doable, but it takes dedicated practice.

Seriously, if you plan to carry a micro pocket gun, you need to be proficient with it. They only hurt if you don't train with them. Train with them until your grip and technique allow you to run 300 rounds through them in a single session with nothing more than some hand fatigue from maintaining a solid grip. That's it.
 
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