I was just reading the post of shooterz about the guns he was given ( I hate you by the way ) not really, glad you got them. but it reminded me of when my father in law died. he had some nice guns. they all went to his son, my brother in law. nice guy but he doesnt shoot. my father in law died over twenty years ago. the guns have never been fired since that time. the only time they have been cleaned and oiled was when I made him get them out of a closet and let me go over them. by the way he is a court bailiff, and carries a ruger for work. it gets shot onece a year to certify and then never again. I was the only one who hunted with my father in law. but did I get the guns or just a gun :evil: .