However a few weeks ago my son and I were at a fleamarket and as we were walking out we found a HP 40S&W pistol. Wasn't a great price, $140 with three mags but as I already reload for 40 S&W I bought it on a whim. Stopped by the range and my son loved it. He's on the large side, 6'4"/280 lbs and the bulk of that pistol seemed to fit him like a glove. I'd planned on using that pistol for a truck gun but but now he wants it. Yesterday I found a C9 with 2 mags for $110. So my son will probably end up with the 40 and the C9 will ride in the vault under the seat of my truck. I'm no stranger to firearms and I've heard all the alleged HP horror stories. However the sight picture is good and the ones I have seem to function reliably with a variety of ammo and all the mags I have for them. I would not want to CCW either of these pistols because of the bulk but I'd have no qualms about sticking one in the night stand for things that go bump in the night.