New 3895TS

Discussion in 'Hi-Point Carbines' started by SWA4D, Dec 31, 2020.

  1. SWA4D

    SWA4D Member

    Okay, I finally got a 3895TS. Went to go shoot it and the damn magazine was a really pain to reload but not failures. Date on original magazine is 9 2015. Bought two more magazines and a speed loader. Date on new magazines 1 2016. The new magazines seem easier to load but not the old one seems easier to load too. I not sure there is anything there or not. Went shooting today, the new magazines had two failures per 10 rounds. This was a total pain at the range. I settled to use the original mag, no issue but a total of 4 failures out of 20 rounds from the two new mags. What should I do, send the magazines back or ???
     
  2. ajole

    ajole Supporting Member

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    Break them in.
    There’s a few tricks to it, but leaving them loaded for a few weeks might do it. Or using a paint stick or something to repeatedly mash the follower and spring up and down while watching a tv show is often a thing. I like to polish the mag lips a bit, and if they’re really bad some actually bend them, but it doesn’t sound like you need to go that far.
     
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  3. SWA4D

    SWA4D Member

    Here is my issue, I have 3 magazine. One has never had a failure to feed. I have stored these magazines for a couple weeks loaded. Ran Norma, Aguila and Winchester FMJ .380 ACP ammo about 30 rounds each. 2 magazine I had a failure to feed once or twice on each 10 round mag.
    Also here is a slowmo video screen grab of another failure. What do you think? Is this a gun or mag issue? I have one mag that I have not had any failures. The other two out of 50-60 rounds each, I have not been able to go 10 rounds on one without a failure. This is very frustrating.
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  4. SWA4D

    SWA4D Member

    Okay I posted 4 screen shots that show the cartridge in the mag and then jamming. I also posted another photo of the cartridge jammed. What is your thoughts?
     
  5. OldOutlaw

    OldOutlaw Supporting Member

    No pics are showing.
     
  6. ajole

    ajole Supporting Member

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    And my thoughts are still....break them in. By shooting more, by doing the fluff and buff of smoothing and cycling things, or by "tweaking" the mag by twisting the straight rear feed lips in or out a tad.

    Question, were the pictures taken when hand racking?
     
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  7. SWA4D

    SWA4D Member

    I did a slow mo video while firing and just snipping tool 4 consecutive frames of firing. It was out of focus so first photo is firing, second you can see that fire at the cartridge and bolt moving back and how the cartridge in the mag is sitting, third I believe is the bolt moving forward and the cartridge is really pushed nose down and the forth is the cartridge is jammed and did not slide up the ramp into the camber. The photo is a different jam.
     
  8. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    Threads merged for continuity.
     
  9. hans471

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    I got the .380 carbine when they first came out. While I don't burn thousands of rounds through it I do shoot it. I have never had any issue with it. I use 95 gn round nose ammo, mostly my own reloads and some factory stuff, none of it expensive.
    Most firearms improve with age as the "rough edges" get smoothed out. Some people do polish jobs on their guns, especially the feed ramp. The HP has a cast metal, zinc alloy, receiver. The magic "Z" alloy! Its not something I would start polishing too much with a Dremel tool or any such thing. Its just too easy to really grind away too much material.
    I would carefully inspect all the parts involved and look for any rough spots or burrs. One can carefully hand polish parts but only with extreme caution and a very gentle touch. Less is better
    As always check magazines and try different ammo. If none of that works its time for ET to call home and maybe win a free ride back to the factory.
     
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  10. SWA4D

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    Okay here is the latest. I exercised one of the springs for a while, I used a Dremel, buffing wheel and some polishing compound to shine the underside of the feed lips and edge. The original magazine shot twice with Winchester white box, zero issues. Polished mag and exercised spring, three failures to put a bullet in the camber, nose up each time on the first 10 rounds of Winchester white box, switched to Aguila (round nose) and got 2 failures but dropped 2 trying to clear so out of 8 rounds. Here is the thing, was frustrated and so I shot the unpolish mag I had troubles with but rested the bottom of the hand grip and mag on the rest and shot all 10 rounds of Winchester white box not problem. At first, I was confused but then I loaded the polished feed lip mag and put he mag on the rest and shot all 10 rounds of Winchester white box no problem also. I did this a couple times and could clear a magazine with not failures if I have the mag pushed up. Took the unpolished mag and tried to shoot it without holding it up and got 2 failures out of 10, with Winchester white box, loaded Aguila (round nose) and got two failures. I am ready to send these mags back, what does the forum think about these tests?
     
  11. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    A common occurrence. Something is out of spec either on the magazine catch itself or the notch on the mag.
     
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