New 9mm carbine

Discussion in 'General Hi-Point Discussion' started by Killjoy, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. Killjoy

    Killjoy Member

    Hi all,
    I plan to purchase a new HP carbine. I know there are different models. Does anyone have any recommendations?
     
  2. talon

    talon the banned wagon

    Only difference in models (within the 3 available calibers) are what accesories it comes with (or color once the hydrodipped versions start).

    My advise get the basic one and put aftermarket accesories on it that you choose. Youll get better quality items.

    The carbine itself, you'll love.
     

  3. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    Go with the 4595 because .45ACP is the best pistol round. You really don't need to accessorize the carbine much. It is designed for relatively short-range use, and many of the accessories available for carbines tend to be more geared toward longer-range use.

    A nice aluminum rail and a pair of BUIS to bookend a Bushnell TRS-25 are really about all you need.
     
  4. talon

    talon the banned wagon

    Oh lord........ :rolleyes:
     
  5. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    Ah, I see that you are expressing your reverence for the almighty .45acp. You are such a pious man, Talon.
     
  6. talon

    talon the banned wagon

    I love the .45 and own a 4595ts. I also own the 4095ts and 995 classic.

    The "best" caliber is just such a stupid statement to me. Its my 1st choice but that doesnt make it, or any other caliber best.
     
  7. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    Yeah, but it's fun to throw the statement around here when you know that people will react as they do. Sometimes, it is fun to stir the .
     
  8. rippinryno

    rippinryno Well-Known Member

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    Save yourself some money at the range and get the 9mm. I got mine with the red dot site on it and it's a zombie shooter.
     
  9. Yes find someone if possible in your area that will let you shoot there's
    i have shot 3 the 9,.40,.45 but not the .380 they were all good
    one caliber does not fit all ( what ammo is always in stock in your area ?)
    i own the .40 and love it . but get what you want
     
  10. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    Get the 4595 and man up. :jk: but the 4595 seems to have less issues.
     
  11. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    @killjoy

    If you are seeking caliber advice, I'll lay out some guidelines... As for "models"
    and accessories, Talon is 100% spot-on. UTG makes some excellent things,
    and lower priced. Check Amazon for some great deals! FleaBay too.

    Here's the caliber analysis I promised:

    Cons:
    995...
    No Magazine interchange with the C9
    ProMags are most problematic w/C9

    4095...
    Higher Ammo cost than 9mm

    4595...
    Mags hold 9 rounds instead of 10 (9mm & 40S&W)
    Highest Ammo cost


    Pros:
    995...
    Lowest Ammo cost, but premium 9mm is closer to the 40S&W
    Smallest, Lightest carbine, less recoil (none are harsh)

    4095...
    Mid Priced ammo, generally the best all around pistol and carbine round
    ProMags generally work with the 4095
    Shares mags with the JCP Pistol

    4595...
    Biggest caliber, (but ammo costs more)
    ProMags generally work with the 4595
    Shares mags with the JHP Pistol
    1911 magazines can be easily modified to fit the Hi Points!
    (same for the 4095, but 40 cal 1911 mags are less common and more $)


    There you go!
    I personally would have the 4095 and a JCP if I could only have 1 Hi Point combo, but I also have the 4595 and JHP :D and in reality, I think I like shooting the JHP45 better than the JCP. ;)
     
  12. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    All good advice, note that I excluded m00nerz's comment ;)
    I'm planning on some stout +P for my 4595, when I get to reloading!
    45ACP +P is expensive unless you "roll your own" :stir:
     
  13. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    You just agreed with my comment and went all Kirk type happy with it. 45 is the way to go.:p
     
  14. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Not so fast, my B!tch!!!!

    I said I like shooting the JHP better.
    I skipped your comment because it was pure opinion, no data.
    I happen to generally agree with your "opinion" but was relaying
    DATA for our OP! So he can make up his own mind... ;)
     
  15. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    My word is law you little #$%^ sucker. :p
     
  16. Dagwood

    Dagwood Supporting Member

    Ok, this is getting a little weird you two. Go to your rooms!
     
  17. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    Your not my dad!!
    Flash is :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  18. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    No, I am your father, La.... erm, Luke!

    [​IMG]


    :rofl:
     
  19. Hipointer

    Hipointer Member

    Hello and welcome! I have the 995TS, and highly recommend it. :)
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  20. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    I started with the 4095, and I really like the 995 the best. I do have a 4595, and am picking up another 4595 tomorrow.

    I have one ProMag for the .40 that I have to slap when I release the bolt. (need to research that more) Then it's smooth sailing. The 3 ProMags I have for the 45's work flawlessly so far. And yes I said plural on the 45's, the 14rd mags fit the JHP45! Never a problem with the ProMags in 9 so far. Unless I accidentally load 16 in there!

    I do have a problem with my 4595 that I bought used. It won't feed and jams at the start of a new mag. I have it marked. (factory mag) I was a real PITA to get the mag out!

    My favorite so far is the 9's.