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Ouch.

Now the owner of a factory new Ford Escape SE.

I've never bought new before. Always used just because that's where the value actually is. But because of the COVID supply issues, used are nearly as expensive as new and, for the first time in my life, buying new makes more sense.

Anyway, there's a lot of wiz features that are going take some getting used to. Not having a shifter is a big one. Instead of an actual shifter, I've now got a giant radio knob to put it in gear.

I think I'm going to like it but it will take a while to get used to.

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We bought a new 2020 Kia Sportage just 2 weeks before the Covid Shutdown. Got a great price and 0% financing. We can sell it for more than we paid for it even with 20K miles on it.

Can't beat that with a stick.
Get a beater and invest the gains in silver, gold amd ammo

Good on ya Kirk, most people I would warn against buying new but #1 this is an unprecedented market in unpredictable times, #2 its you, and I'm pretty sure your finances are in order, you have a very secure job and 2 good incomes... checks all the boxes.

That being said, most HP folks are not spendthrifts anyway :rotfl:

I'm going RAMSEY like Swaga did, but then again I was among the worst I've met.
 

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I have 2017 Escape Titanium. Every option but the sun roof. Mine still had the shifter, the knob thing would drive me batty!

Which engine did you get? I have the 2.0L TurboBoost and am impressed. Plenty of get up and go so no real need to get used to to the change from the 5.4 Triton. AWD too so it gets aroud in the snow really well.
 

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Get a beater and invest the gains in silver, gold amd ammo

Good on ya Kirk, most people I would warn against buying new but #1 this is an unprecedented market in unpredictable times, #2 its you, and I'm pretty sure your finances are in order, you have a very secure job and 2 good incomes... checks all the boxes.

That being said, most HP folks are not spendthrifts anyway :rotfl:

I'm going RAMSEY like Swaga did, but then again I was among the worst I've met.
Dave Ramsey's basis for not buying new is that cars don't hold their value. Ours went up.

We also keep our cars till they die. The Sportage replaced a 1998 F150.

Gold as an investment?? Not me. I remember when Gold hit $700 an ounce in the early '80s. Its about double that now. Pretty poor long term investment compared to my stock market returns over the same time.
 

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Get a beater and invest the gains in silver, gold amd ammo

Good on ya Kirk, most people I would warn against buying new but #1 this is an unprecedented market in unpredictable times, #2 its you, and I'm pretty sure your finances are in order, you have a very secure job and 2 good incomes... checks all the boxes.

That being said, most HP folks are not spendthrifts anyway :rotfl:

I'm going RAMSEY like Swaga did, but then again I was among the worst I've met.
Use that gold/silver to buy foodstuffs and luxury items for resale/barter.

When one egg cost you a Krugerrand, you'll understand.

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Use that gold/silver to buy foodstuffs and luxury items for resale/barter.

When one egg cost you a Krugerrand, you'll understand.

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If an egg cost that much. I have a rifle. And the odds of it actually happening are slim to none. So basically you're wasting time and money on gold or silver.
Besides if I had food why would I want your heavy metals that serve zero functionality in a I need food more than shiny metals. Its a con used by those proping up gold and silver.
 

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If an egg cost that much. I have a rifle. And the odds of it actually happening are slim to none. So basically you're wasting time and money on gold or silver.
Besides if I had food why would I want your heavy metals that serve zero functionality in a I need food more than shiny metals. Its a con used by those proping up gold and silver.
Exactly. Too bad so many are hooked on the Gold/Silver BS. Another meaning of "Fools Gold."
 

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why would I want your heavy metals that serve zero functionality
When it all goes tits up, they'll make purty bullets.
 

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When it all goes tits up, they'll make purty bullets.
Yep. Costly bulllets at that. Unless your hunting werewolves.
 

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Yep. Costly bulllets at that. Unless your hunting werewolves.
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@MaryB hey looks like I'm prolly gonna need backup in here on precious metals

@mn_doggie Gold was TRIPLE those prices, dropped back a bit, but the equities are prime for a major correction any time. Gold is now 2.5x the prices you list.

And it's not "propped up" Moonz. In fact, it is propped DOWN

Gold and especially Silver are very low as compared to actual dollars in circulation versus when we were on a precious metals standard. FACTS
 

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We leased a GMC Terrain. It was a “keep the wife happy” thing. I think I’ve got her convinced against that BS for next time.

Point being, it has a dial for selecting 2/4/AWD right by the console lid, behind the cup holders, that I can’t even see without shifting in my seat, the on/off push button is hidden by the steering wheel, and the gear selection is a row of switches over under the heater controls. Push a button for Park, pull another one for reverse, or a different one for Drive, and then there’s another 3 buttons for manual shifting, WAY over on the right side.
So yes. These dials for gears are ridiculous. Utterly stupid.


My Titan still has the column gear shift, and the manual shifting is a thumb toggle on that. Tow mode is a push button in the end. Easy, intuitive, out of the way. At the time, the Dodge in that price range had the dial. I don’t like it. The 4WD selector is rotary, left and lower than the heater, easy to see and reach.

Our Impala has a center console stick for the auto tranny, but it has the manual controls behind the steering wheel, you use your right hand to toggle up and down. Left hand has radio volume there. I like that arrangement too. The GMC has the radio volume in the same place, but the right side control is “next track” or station on the radio. The school’s Yukon has the same thing, but the 4WD select is way on the left of the dash, low down to where I can’t see it without moving my head.

Some day, all the ergonomic design people are going to share a special place in hell with the guys that design motor layouts to make it hard to work on them, and the people that do freeway exits and merge lanes....
 
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I like sport mode and use the paddle shifters. Get that turbo spooled up! But it kills my mileage LOL
 

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@MaryB hey looks like I'm prolly gonna need backup in here on precious metals

@mn_doggie Gold was TRIPLE those prices, dropped back a bit, but the equities are prime for a major correction any time. Gold is now 2.5x the prices you list.

And it's not "propped up" Moonz. In fact, it is propped DOWN

Gold and especially Silver are very low as compared to actual dollars in circulation versus when we were on a precious metals standard. FACTS
And have you been following Dave Ramsey long enough to know what he says about investing in precious metals?

Buy all the gold and silver you want...

I won't invest in any.
 

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And have you been following Dave Ramsey long enough to know what he says about investing in precious metals?

Buy all the gold and silver you want...

I won't invest in any.
Ramsey is also against Crypto, (bitcoin, etc) and those, along with precious metals are all hedges against economic collapse. I've done well with all of these, but I was also ahead of the games we've seen in the last 13 years.

Even the most conservative "balanced" investment gurus call for some exposure to precious metals. Usually 10%

I'm still in the markets too, along with the above mentioned items. But like I said, I was ahead of the curve and have done well. Further economic turmoil will happen, at least before it all gets better. Or do you trust the commies to keep your nest egg safe?

That is my biggest concern, but all the .GOV spending also predicts huge market gains, because all the QE monies are specifically for propping up Stocks, and to a lesser extent, Bonds. So I'm making that general play too.

I just already have a safe seat, once the music stops.


The professional investment "gurus" espousing 0% in precious metals are idiots, or have an exit plan... which is probably criminal.
 

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Gold and silver are to preserve wealth, not neccessarily be a major investment to earn money. The silver I bought in 1976(US silver coins, aka junk silver bought for spot) for ~$5 an ounce is now worth $22... it hasn't lost money nor has it really gained much... same for the gold I bought way back when.
 
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Gold and silver are to preserve wealth, not neccessarily be a major investment to earn money. The silver I bought in 1976(US silver coins, aka junk silver bought for spot) for ~$5 an ounce is now worth $22... it hasn't lost money nor has it really gained much... same for the gold I bought way back when.
I noticed you bought at $5 (1976) but didn't sell @$50 in 1980, nor 2011. Long term holding is likely not gonna sell at the peaks. But you've done well
 

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It sits in the bottom of the gun safe, doesn't use much room for what it is worth. My emergency stash because it is easy to convert to cash if needed, or do a barter for what I need.
 
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