I have been watching this forum for a short while after my son told me about the HP, he has an Springfield XD. He knew that I wanted a pistol but was to cheap to let go of that much cash. I listened to him, read posts here and picked up my new C9 on Friday for $139, and ran 50 shots through it without a problem. Ok, my aim sucks but the gun shoots great. I came back to the house, read the instructions and I will adjust the sites when we go out shooting tomorrow. Great little gun and a life time warranty, what more could you want. I know, for WalMart to get in some shells so I would have to travel 20 miles to get them. Boy shells are in short supply around here.