[Mudpuppy]

Hello fellow Hipoint enthusiasts.
I am a new gun owner, bought my 1st gun ever today.
I shot a Hipoint 9mm years ago and fell in love with it. Was at some strip pits with friends shooting guns off and was handed the HP. Always said if I ever bought a gun that would be it.
I am not a real big gun person and honestly don't know a lot about them. I have shot only a handful of guns in my life... 1st one ever was a 12g when I was 10 and learned real quick a kick was not my thing.
I have mainly just had 22LR's (inherited from my dad).
But today I bought my Hipoint 995. It's the Classic, probably paid too much for it and all.
What is a fair price for one of these?
I wonder if I should have went with the newer model?
I've seen threads here and there with people talking about the differences (as in upgrades/features) and whatnot, but they are all over a decade old and are pretty much just that- differences.
Anyone know what years the classic was in production? Trying to figure out how old this thing is.
What is the general consensus on the Classic vs the new? Which do you prefer and why?
Is one superior than the other? Or 1 have any special bonuses over the other (i.e. able to shoot different types of rounds than the other, etc)?
I picked this one out, mainly because it was lighter than the new one but now I just don't know ??

Anyways, sorry for all the newbie questions. Just trying to learn about my new-to-me gun. Any and all help is appreciated. And thank you

 

[ajole]

Welcome to the group.

I like the classic better.
The newer TS model is better for using scopes or red dots, and has a last round hold open.
They both shoot basically everything out there as far as 9 mm ammo, except maybe 147 grain stuff, and neither is more accurate than the other.

Fair price today? Who knows. Back in the day, I bought several used 995 or C9’s or JCPs for $120 each. But then, an SKS was under $200, while an AR was over $800.

 

[Rufus Nathaniel REDD]

Welcome,

I own two of the early 995's...they shoot well, period...I paid less than $200 for each of mine... for more info I suggest you look at : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Point_Carbine

REDD

 

[Mudpuppy]

Thank you all for the welcome!

I wish I would've gotten on the bandwagon back when I shot my first HP, it would've been a lot cheaper. But I didn't bite the bullet (pun intended) back then .
Anyways, I cleaned and shot a mag through my Classic the day I brought it home... shot great. But I decided to take it back and trade it in for a new TS.
The Classic was a "B" model so I assume it is pretty old and with the way things are, shipping it back to MoM (if it was needed sometime soon) might be a huge hassle right now. Also, looking into it, I really liked the mag holder for the stock. So I just decided a new one might be better.
Sadly, it is an older model (but brand new, F model) TS as it doesn't have the pic rails (from factory) and doesn't have the new HP logo/brand on it. I know I can buy the pic rails, but with as much as I spent recently I will have to wait on that.

 

[Mudpuppy]

Also, another question...
Is there any ammo I should stay away from?
So far (in my cramming :zombie it seems like 147 grain is a no-no... but I've seen some say that as long as it isn't the rounded tip 147 then it's ok
Then 1 of the guys at the gun shop brought something up about cheap ammo isn't good and said something about Russian ammo ...I dunno, he talked a lot.

 

[retread]

bought on monday, traded on wed. patience needed here. to late now but you could have got the TS stock from HP and dropped the one you had in it for 40.00. oh well!

 

[Mudpuppy]

The TS stock on HP is $61.95, not $40.
I just decided to trade mainly because it is a new gun (vs an older version), it was my 1st gun purchase ever and figured I'd rather have brand-spanking-new. And in the times we are in now (+ sporadic mail delivery times, and being down for a few weeks), the new one may be less likely needing to be sent back to MoM in the near future.

And I was wrong, my new one has the pic rails... that's what I get for looking at it in the dark (+ just being a tired :zombie

 

[SWAGA]

Welcome to the forum.
Mostly knowledgeable people here.
.45 JHP owner from Florida myself.

 

[retread]

The TS stock on HP is $61.95, not $40.
I just decided to trade mainly because it is a new gun (vs an older version), it was my 1st gun purchase ever and figured I'd rather have brand-spanking-new. And in the times we are in now (+ sporadic mail delivery times, and being down for a few weeks), the new one may be less likely needing to be sent back to MoM in the near future.

And I was wrong, my new one has the pic rails... that's what I get for looking at it in the dark (+ just being a tired :zombie

didnt know the price went up.

 

[Hipointer]

Hello and welcome from Indiana!

 

[Dagwood]

Welcome from the Great Southwest! The carbines are awesome. I've owned both the classic and the TS. Both are great. My preference is the classic. I have a classic in a ATI stock. I gave my daughter a classic with a pink camo wrap that I did on it. I gave my 4595TS to my nephew. Loved that one. I had a 995TS I sold. Should've kept that one too. They are all super reliable and ate any ammo I fed them. Fun fun fun!

 

[Delbert]

Welcome aboard Mudpuppy, from Missouri. I drew my first breath in Rogers.

 

[fell]

welcome aboard

 

[undeRGRound]

Welcome!!
might be a good idea, but if the Classic shot well enough,
it was likely just fine. If it was me I'd have bought one of
each and then felt pretty good. As Preppers say,
ONE IS NONE, TWO IS ONE, & THREE IS A GOOD START!

The last line is mine, I tend to go a bit overboard LOL

 

[fatal-bert33]

Welcome!!
might be a good idea, but if the Classic shot well enough,
it was likely just fine. If it was me I'd have bought one of
each and then felt pretty good. As Preppers say,
ONE IS NONE, TWO IS ONE, & THREE IS A GOOD START!

The last line is mine, I tend to go a bit overboard LOL

A BIT ?????

 

[Delbert]

[QUOTE="undeRGRound, As Preppers say,
ONE IS NONE, TWO IS ONE, & THREE IS A GOOD START!

The last line is mine, I tend to go a bit overboard LOL[/QUOTE]

Edited

It's always good to be above average and in the case of SHTF, it's always good to have more than the enemy. One thing about living in the country and not right upon each other, is your neighbors don't even know what you have.

 

[Dave772]

Hello fellow Hipoint enthusiasts.
I am a new gun owner, bought my 1st gun ever today.
I shot a Hipoint 9mm years ago and fell in love with it. Was at some strip pits with friends shooting guns off and was handed the HP. Always said if I ever bought a gun that would be it.
I am not a real big gun person and honestly don't know a lot about them. I have shot only a handful of guns in my life... 1st one ever was a 12g when I was 10 and learned real quick a kick was not my thing.
I have mainly just had 22LR's (inherited from my dad).
But today I bought my Hipoint 995. It's the Classic, probably paid too much for it and all.
What is a fair price for one of these?
I wonder if I should have went with the newer model?
I've seen threads here and there with people talking about the differences (as in upgrades/features) and whatnot, but they are all over a decade old and are pretty much just that- differences.
Anyone know what years the classic was in production? Trying to figure out how old this thing is.
What is the general consensus on the Classic vs the new? Which do you prefer and why?
Is one superior than the other? Or 1 have any special bonuses over the other (i.e. able to shoot different types of rounds than the other, etc)?
I picked this one out, mainly because it was lighter than the new one but now I just don't know ??

Anyways, sorry for all the newbie questions. Just trying to learn about my new-to-me gun. Any and all help is appreciated. And thank you

New here also! I have questions about cleaning a Model JS made by Stallard Arms and was told to come here. No luck yet!

 

[Delbert]

New here also! I have questions about cleaning a Model JS made by Stallard Arms and was told to come here. No luck yet!

Dave772, I know you're new, but it's recommended to not hijack a thread, but to put your question in the proper page that is setup here. This way others' see it better and know what you need help with.

Also, Welcome to the asylum.

What do you mean by cleaning?

There's the just rodding out of barrel/chamber, brushing inside the magwell, and cleaning the front of bolt assy to get rid of shredded lead and burnt powders.

Then, there's the total disassembly of the gun. Taking out pins, removing springs/screws, disassembly of bolt, and doing what would make the gun look like it was never fired type of cleaning(over looking how used it is, of course) and re-greasing/oiling things back up.

A few things you need, IF you haven't ever cleaned a gun before --- no matter if modern pistol or rifle from the late 1800's to today. As long as they use a modern type burn powder and NOT a black-powder fired weapon(these used a different cleaning/care method.

Gun Cleaning Kit -- for you with this being a JS(pistol) model you can use a pistol cleaning kit. These will include Jags, Rods(a few screw together lengths for short to longer barrels), swabs(small squares of white cloth), brass brushes(softer metal to not harm barrel/chamber interior). If you find these brushes in steel, DO NOT BUY. Bore cleaner and gun oil.

Some gun cleaning kits do not include cleaners or oil, so make sure you get some.

Hoppe's: Barrel bore cleaners, gun oils. Can be found in regular or synthetic. Cheap(er) and has been around for 50+yrs in protecting/cleaning the metal of guns around the world.
CLP - Break Free: This is a mil-spec Clean - Lube - Protect, in a spray. Works well and millions of users.
SLIP2000: Great gun oils, greases and cleaners.
Mobil1 engine oil(the same you use in your vehicle and used as metal protection after cleaning out of residues. Many of us use it as an alternative to higher costing synthetic gun protection oil.

These are just a miniscule of what's out there to help a person clean and help take care of a gun.

You Tube videos also help with disassembly of these guns and you can replay all you want if you run into any problems.

MOM(maker or manufacturer) is also a fall back on and you can send the gun to and they'll do a total teardown and replace what parts they have on hand and send back to you all greased/oiled up, or delivered to your local LGS to pickup depending on your state's gun laws. Just remember that the JS models are NOT what is being sold by Hi-Point nowadays and they have very limited supply of parts, if at all. Give them a call to see if they can still cover this model under warranty repair. What parts they might have, they can also send to you as long as it's not the serial numbered part and you can install or have a gunsmith or friend install for you, if they know what they're doing.

 

[cicpup]

New here also! I have questions about cleaning a Model JS made by Stallard Arms and was told to come here. No luck yet!

Same as a C-9. Spray it, swab it & wipe it. If you feel the need to break it down. Lock back the slide, knock out the retaining pin revealed in the other notch on the slide, close the slide to about 1/4 to 1/3 the way open and pull up on the back of the slide keeping your hand over the round retainer at the back of the slide and remove the slide from the barrel. Keep track of where the parts go. Reassembly is the opposite. No need to tear it down further unless it's completely screwed up.

 

[adam01364]

@Dave772 here's the schematic from the Numrich website.