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Some of you may know that a near the end of last year, I took a new position, with a different contract, on Base. I returned to a position that I had left. The contract has pretty much 100% all new personnel from when I was there several years prior. But one of the Civil Servants in charge, while biologically, a guy, figuratively, must have gotten an extra dose of X chromosome or something. I'm euphemistically saying that this dude is creating vast amounts of drama and is at the center of it every time. He's in conflict with pretty much every person on the contract, from other Civil Servants to all of the Contractors. And I have to work closely with him. Basically, he's working as a top level manager, but he's taken a lot of tech responsibilities that he normally wouldn't (shouldn't?). He's disrespectful, frustrating, insulting, micromanaging, and vague about his desires and goals to people he's "managing," including to me.

As an example, he's writing a "how to" document for installing an OS and customizing it to our needs. He gave me a copy and asked me to test it out. As I found errors, issues, mistakes, and flat out "it doesn't work" things in the doc, I make red-text entries to my copy for corrections, additional notes, etc. When I gave this to him, I got grouched at for doing this as I was apparently only supposed to be a monkey following the script. OK, so I'll be a monkey and follow the script exactly, I got grumped at again because I was following his written instructions from the perspective of someone who had no experience and was trying to follow his "cookbook" to make the install work. Oh, and I'm going "too slow" at everything. Apparently I was just supposed to pretend to follow his written instructions, using my expertise to resolve any issues, but not telling anybody about it. You know, just rubber stamping his doc as awesome.

And that's just ONE example of many.

If the dude keeps this up, I'm not sure how much longer I can work here. He's already run off a several other people in the Linux side of the team and our VMWare guy has threatened to leave because of the drama/conflict he's creating (referring to it as a hostile/toxic work environment). Heck, when I got here we had an UNPRECEDENTED meeting about this guy and his drama with Gov. staff and Civil Servants & Contractors going all the way up, literally, to the Division Chief, all in one conference room. But he's a Civil Servant so he's effectively teflon plated.

The truth is that I don't want to find a new job. I negotiated HARD on this and got several concessions in salary and PTO so I feel like I have a responsibility to try to make it work. I'd also hate to leave my friends at this Contract. I know it would really put them in a bind, especially because I'm currently the only Linux admin left (other having been run off by the conflict with the Civ.).

Nothing for you folks to do, I'm really just venting, but if this doesn't somehow get worked out I may have to bite the bullet and look for something else. :( The guys at the Contract I left have been low-key lobbying me to come back.

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Okay. This guy could maybe go down the way of luggage thief Sammy. Anyone who creates that much drama in the workplace likely has even more in their personal life. If only some anonymous, unrelated, unconnected person could delve into Google and social media and find this guy's inevitable dirt, and anonymously share it with his superior(s).
 

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Some of you may know that a near the end of last year, I took a new position, with a different contract, on Base. I returned to a position that I had left. The contract has pretty much 100% all new personnel from when I was there several years prior. But one of the Civil Servants in charge, while biologically, a guy, figuratively, must have gotten an extra dose of X chromosome or something. I'm euphemistically saying that this dude is creating vast amounts of drama and is at the center of it every time. He's in conflict with pretty much every person on the contract, from other Civil Servants to all of the Contractors. And I have to work closely with him. Basically, he's working as a top level manager, but he's taken a lot of tech responsibilities that he normally wouldn't (shouldn't?). He's disrespectful, frustrating, insulting, micromanaging, and vague about his desires and goals to people he's "managing," including to me.

As an example, he's writing a "how to" document for installing an OS and customizing it to our needs. He gave me a copy and asked me to test it out. As I found errors, issues, mistakes, and flat out "it doesn't work" things in the doc, I make red-text entries to my copy for corrections, additional notes, etc. When I gave this to him, I got grouched at for doing this as I was apparently only supposed to be a monkey following the script. OK, so I'll be a monkey and follow the script exactly, I got grumped at again because I was following his written instructions from the perspective of someone who had no experience and was trying to follow his "cookbook" to make the install work. Oh, and I'm going "too slow" at everything. Apparently I was just supposed to pretend to follow his written instructions, using my expertise to resolve any issues, but not telling anybody about it. You know, just rubber stamping his doc as awesome.

And that's just ONE example of many.

If the dude keeps this up, I'm not sure how much longer I can work here. He's already run off a several other people in the Linux side of the team and our VMWare guy has threatened to leave because of the drama/conflict he's creating (referring to it as a hostile/toxic work environment). Heck, when I got here we had an UNPRECEDENTED meeting about this guy and his drama with Gov. staff and Civil Servants & Contractors going all the way up, literally, to the Division Chief, all in one conference room. But he's a Civil Servant so he's effectively teflon plated.

The truth is that I don't want to find a new job. I negotiated HARD on this and got several concessions in salary and PTO so I feel like I have a responsibility to try to make it work. I'd also hate to leave my friends at this Contract. I know it would really put them in a bind, especially because I'm currently the only Linux admin left (other having been run off by the conflict with the Civ.).

Nothing for you folks to do, I'm really just venting, but if this doesn't somehow get worked out I may have to bite the bullet and look for something else. :( The guys at the Contract I left have been low-key lobbying me to come back.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
If enough complaints were filed against him they would have to act... maybe just shuffle him off sideways to another post but out of your hair!
 

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If enough complaints were filed against him they would have to act... maybe just shuffle him off sideways to another post but out of your hair!
You definitely fail up as a Civil Servant. I've seen it with my own eyes.
 

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Okay. This guy could maybe go down the way of luggage thief Sammy. Anyone who creates that much drama in the workplace likely has even more in their personal life. If only some anonymous, unrelated, unconnected person could delve into Google and social media and find this guy's inevitable dirt, and anonymously share it with his superior(s).
My mind went in the same direction. Of course the phrase "make him an offer he can't refuse" also was briefly entertained.
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You definitely fail up as a Civil Servant. I've seen it with my own eyes.
"Promoted to his highest level of incompetence." Sounds like you'll be pissing up a rope. Dust off the resume and get cracking!
 

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People suck. Incompetent bosses destroy everything they touch.
 

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I negotiated HARD on this and got several concessions in salary and PTO
It sounds like you need to do some cost-benefit analysis. You negotiated your salary and PTO benefits with an expectation of certain working conditions being in place. It seems that those working conditions are far below your expectations. Are those hard-fought salary and PTO concessions worth the unexpected conditions you are now facing? When you do your analysis, you may determine that your pay and PTO are actually insufficient compensation for what you are dealing with.
I'd also hate to leave my friends at this Contract. I know it would really put them in a bind, especially because I'm currently the only Linux admin left (other having been run off by the conflict with the Civ.).

The guys at the Contract I left have been low-key lobbying me to come back.
It appears that many of your friends have been leaving and that the ones you are worried about leaving may end up leaving in any case, based on the departures you've described. They, just like you are, were right to look out for their own interests. It's a job at a place in which you have absolutely no equity interest. You are a line item expense to be cut or added at the whim of your employer.

Is your satisfaction with a substantial part of your life worth less than your co-workers' satisfaction with their own lives at work? Horizontal loyalty is critical in any work place, but there must be reciprocal vertical loyalty for it to be worthwhile. At the end of the day, they won't be the ones fuming in your car during the commute home and dreading walking through the doors every day when you return. They're work friends. They aren't blood relatives or those rare life-long friends who are almost family. In a few years, will they still be there for you in the way that you are now trying to be there for them?
 

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You definitely fail up as a Civil Servant. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Good point... saw it at the casino too. The do nothing ass kissers were moved up while those of us who did the bulk of the work had to put up with their stupidity. When I hurt my back and was leaving they did an exit interview. I let my boss have it, told HR they were facing a mutiny over no raises and to many injuries(my job was second most dangerous, some injuries were expected)... out of a crew of 18 when I left 10 were injured, 3 of us bad enough it was putting us out of work, 1 more that was close to having to quit because of a blown out knee...

Loved watching my bosses face get redder and redder... I didn't let him talk either. I said my piece and walked(gimped) out.
 
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Anything he wants tested out, remote install and test it on his computer. Have a bunch of print jobs remotely put into his personal printer. Have the first print job print out "I know what you did with your boss's daughter", the 2nd one print out "No, not that, but that's a good one too!", 3rd one print out "No, your OTHER boss's daughter!" 4th "AND his son, too!" 5th "Do you REALLY need to look at porn and beat off at work?" and bury the identities of the computers you use to make the print jobs so no one can find out which computers were being used, or when.
Hell, maybe just remote in and completely erase his whole hard drive
 

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We used to go to the shift managers computer and plug the KB into the mouse port (this was the 90's!) and the mouse into the KB port. He would start throwing things, call IT and leave the office at which point we swapped it back, IT found nothing wrong and thought he was an idiot...
 

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It's at the breaking point now. The douche is claiming I'm not doing my job and is threatening an official contract complaint. Tuesday I was in late because I was getting x-rays for a possibly broken rib (which I think still might be separated despite the x-rays not showing) and then I had to leave at 3 to pick up my daughter from a school function. The @[email protected] complained that I only worked 4 hours and it's indicative of my low work ethic.

The other day I found a major issue with the config in his doc which created an absolute failure for the Linux install to integrate with Windows. This is a major deal-breaker and puts the kibosh on the entire thing. So I found a work around and reported it to him. He b1tched at me for doing it, telling me that I wasn't supposed to be working on that yet, or maybe at all, just monkey-keyboarding his doc. Then he turned around and took credit for finding the problem and solution to his superiors. douche.

There's been a lot of other things too. The contracting company I work for has decided to enforce the "big contract" Government Policy which mandates that Civil Servants (him) can't really directly task Contractors (me) and have limited interaction; they're all supposed to go through the contractor manager. This never made sense because it's such a small contract. But the guy just can't seem to stop abusing his authority.

I'm done with him and will be changing jobs. The back-channel says that I can go back to the job I left and not lose compensation because they're both held by the same contracting company.

I swear, there are just some people who, if they got hit by a bus, you'd throw a party. :rolleyes:

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Good luck Kirk, I think I know some of what you're going through. I had a boss like that.
Fortunately for me he peter-principled into a position outside our department which provided him with higher visibility (ergo more chance of promotion). Nonetheless he still tried to order his former staffers to do stuff for him even though we no longer reported to him; and that didn't work out so well for him as we flat out said "Gofukyerself we don't work fer you"
Anywho, with his higher visibility the top, top brass finally saw what he was doing, he got sacked within the year. He didn't get a good-bye send off, we all saved our beer bucks to celebrate and cheer amongst ourselves that Friday afternoon.
 

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I hope the transition back goes smoothly, and that that guy gets his just desserts.

I have worked with a few like that over the years, but luckily for me I have always worked for local companies that aren't all corporate and full of red tape, ropes, hr departments, etc etc. Basically if bullshit needed to be called on someone, I could call it, with no sugar coating required.
 

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We have a supervisor thats teaching us ethics tonight. He is the biggest fucking liar I've ever work with. Remember I've worked with murders and Pedos. They have more integrity than this cum guzzler.
 

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It's at the breaking point now. The douche is claiming I'm not doing my job and is threatening an official contract complaint. Tuesday I was in late because I was getting x-rays for a possibly broken rib (which I think still might be separated despite the x-rays not showing) and then I had to leave at 3 to pick up my daughter from a school function. The @[email protected] complained that I only worked 4 hours and it's indicative of my low work ethic.

The other day I found a major issue with the config in his doc which created an absolute failure for the Linux install to integrate with Windows. This is a major deal-breaker and puts the kibosh on the entire thing. So I found a work around and reported it to him. He b1tched at me for doing it, telling me that I wasn't supposed to be working on that yet, or maybe at all, just monkey-keyboarding his doc. Then he turned around and took credit for finding the problem and solution to his superiors. douche.

There's been a lot of other things too. The contracting company I work for has decided to enforce the "big contract" Government Policy which mandates that Civil Servants (him) can't really directly task Contractors (me) and have limited interaction; they're all supposed to go through the contractor manager. This never made sense because it's such a small contract. But the guy just can't seem to stop abusing his authority.

I'm done with him and will be changing jobs. The back-channel says that I can go back to the job I left and not lose compensation because they're both held by the same contracting company.

I swear, there are just some people who, if they got hit by a bus, you'd throw a party. :rolleyes:

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Time to throw his ass under the bus. Screw with his project and bounce, though it sounds like if you did that, it might actually make it work correctly.
 

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If enough complaints were filed against him they would have to act... maybe just shuffle him off sideways to another post but out of your hair!
The good thing about people like that is they tend to sink when the waters get a little choppy! The bad is they try to reach out and pull as many people down with them as they can because they can't believe it's their own dam fault. He probably got bullied as a kid so now he feels empowered. I've watched it happen in several different environments many different times, Karma's a bitch, just be patient.
 

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Well, he's definitely got himself a reputation now.

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Just watch him hang himself. Stop helping him, but don't make it look obvious.
 

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Just watch him hang himself. Stop helping him, but don't make it look obvious.
I'm doing what is contractually required of me and making sure that what I do does not reflect badly on the rest of the Contracting team. The Civil Servant can blow it out his nose. His conduct has made it impossible to actually move forward and (re)build the sort of infrastructure this contract really needs.

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