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My car doesn’t get washed after every trip, either...

 

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You put your HiPoints in a safe?

Yeah, but it's a cheap box type. Don't want them bringing down the value of the neighborhood by having them live near the other guns...

 

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I still think it’s just stupid to go only ten rounds, unless you have a long extended mag sticking out however far it will...

But then, the new Glock only holds 10 rounds...

 

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It means they didn't have to re-engineer the trigger bow.

Which is a less than satisfactory answer to the question.

Can you imagine a car maker being asked why NONE of his cars will come with a 6 or 8 cylinder, and replying, "Well, we'd have had to redesign the engine compartment and motor mounts to be on par with everyone else, not to mention being more modern than a 1947 East German Trabant, and that was just too much trouble."

I admit that I'm happy HP is coming out with a higher cap mag, but I'm also a bit worried. Magazines have always been the issue with HP's pistols, particularly the C9. And if the new mag is designed how I suspect, that means that it has at least 2-3 extra parts that a standard single-stack mag doesn't. That's 2-3 more possibilities for out-of-spec, damaged, or tolerance stacking issues. That worries me. I never had any problems at all with my IMEZ mags for the "hi cap makarov" but lots of other people reported that they did.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Exactly. They COULD have done some good work and eliminated the major issue they now have...which is capacity, and reliability due to either the mags, or the mag/frame interface....and it looks like they didn't really do that. I can ALREADY put 10 rounds in my C9 without much effort.

Maybe they determined the reliability issue is all in the mags (it has been in my guns) or maybe they decided it doesn't really matter. But unless the new mags are made better and are more reliable, this "change" is meaningless, 2 more rounds in a flush fit mag that doesn't work well is a failure.

Of course, threaded barrels and ambi mag buttons are nice, as is the elimination of the drop safety; and a slide stop that was normal would be a win...but the mag capacity and reliability was a MAJOR thing, and it looks like they went at it with minor effort.

 

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Keeping the price low almost makes up for the lack of a true double stack...

 

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Some thoughts:

3) Do I wait or sell now while the C9 still commands a premium price?

Now....THAT's funny!

Are there even 25 unique, individual firearms companies in the U.S.; or is it more like 10 unique companies and the rest making AR15s and 1911s?

Say that on Arfcom, and see how long you get banned!

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Well, he is correct that hi-points are heavy...how do you think this trend started?

I tell the kids it started in prisons, to allow quicker access when the boss wants some....

 

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Ye

Yeah that's solid advice. Unfortunately where I live now I have nowhere to shoot.

What you talking about. Any side street will work...

 

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George Kellgren is a genius.

Genius designer, box of rocks stupid businessman.

Or maybe not.

I think if he'd work harder at getting more guns produced and on shelves for purchase, he'd be stupid filthy rich.

But maybe, if more people had his guns...more people would gripe about how crappy they are?

 

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Ahhh.. Easy access. So you're saying all droopy-draw homies are wanna-be prison bitches?

See? Cicpup gets where I'm going! Don't wanna be a bitch? Wear yer dad gum britches like a man, ya little punk!

 

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It's called a YC9. Stands for Yeet Cannon 9. It's more tactical looking with a threaded barrel and I do believe it's going to have a 10 round double stack mag! Looks have improved as well. YouTube had some good videos on them. Should check them out!

Holy crap! We need a thread to talk about this!

Oh....wait.

 

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I'm all for not exempting cops from the same laws as us, after all they are civilian and should be subject to the other laws civilians must adhere to. If LEO and regular citizens alike were all pushing for the laws to get changed we might get somewhere.

I'm all for exempting ALL citizens, including those hired as police officers, from ALL anti 2A laws. Same basic idea as you, except taking it the other way round. NO ONE should need an exemption to exercise a right that hurts no one when legally exercised.

 

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It isn’t as if the double to single stack is a new thing. The Russians have had it for decades...

I'm just popping in to say. Your clearly retarded. What a F....ing idiot. I see the dipshits are flocking in here thinking they are somebody. Flyboy my ass we had one and he wasn't to bad for AF. But this MF here? Straight up retarded.

Good seeing you around Moonz. Take care of yourself.

 

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I was telling lklawson that his post (where he actually explained why HiPoint couldn't use someone else's tube....

As a .22 guy...I REALLY can't wrap my head around your use of the word "tube" in this context.

What are you saying when you use that word?

Do you mean the actual magazine, which could be considered a tube, but is NEVER called a tube? Or do you mean the magwell/grip, which is technically a tube, but which is NEVER called a tube?

That magazine design is a nightmare and just because someone else (the Russians) made such a system work, doesn't mean its a good idea.

Never said it was a good idea.
And what is your qualification to declare it a nightmare?
The principle seems to be working just fine in the KelTec pistols.

 

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OK...I’m 58 years old, I’ve seen a lot and read a lot and heard a lot...but NEVER have I heard Tube, except in the case of an actual tubular magazine in the buttstock or under the barrel.

But I haven’t heard everything...so, oh well.

As to the Sig, I looked for reports of the breakthrough, and found nothing. I have the P365, and it works fine for me with either the 10 or the 12 round mags.

Since the vast majority of double stack mags out there are actually single feed models that center the bullet under the bolt, I honestly don’t think it’s a major issue to extend that single feed position one or two rounds higher. The trick would be the follower staying oriented in the wider part, while being thin enough to fit up into the single width part. IIRC, the Russians used a two part follower?

But really...here’s the little Sig next to a CZ 75 mag. There’s very little difference.

 

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They do say that. But since that was written by lawyers and engineers, I call a party foul on the play....🤓

But....sure enough.

 

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Don’t even care. Until they actually come through on their SHOT show double stack from 2 years ago....screw them and their new concepts.

 

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IMS, the YC-9 had a grip safety.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Probably.
After waiting 6 years for a 4595, I don't pay any attention to anything MKS says, and very little of what HP says. When it shows up on shelves, I'll start looking at things.

 

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Sure enough....$260 for the threaded barrel OLD style!....bwaahahhahhaaaa!

Hi Point C9 Yeet Cannon G1 - For Sale - New :: Guns.com

 

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Thread on the 2022 SHOT showing of the YC-9 here:

New Modern Hi-Point Pistol

Ammoland is reporting that HP will be introducing a new contemporary 9mm pistol soon. Anybody know anymore about it?

www.hipointfirearmsforums.com

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Yep, I resonded there...nothing about the new gun at Guns.com, only the OLD "Yeet Cannon", with a threaded barrel.

 

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Yep...me either. SMH at the same old, same old....