Ordered some rails for my Keltec Sub2000 about a week ago, after seeking a custom rail for an AR forend, but I had found a universal rail that was pretty much EXACTLY what I needed, for dirt cheap, so I did not order from Jerry & Melanie. (owners of Longshot) Since they were so gracious, and worked hard to figure out and make a way for me to get them the specs needed for the custom, I decided this was the perfect time to get my Suby Rails. Jerry was right on it, answered the Q's I had and I placed the order. Full set of SUB2000 rails, brushed aluminum. BINGO! I was going to call tomorrow for a tracking #, but I got this email TONIGHT: They BOTH worked very hard on my order, to make it happen! I am doing it a bit "out of the box" like I usually do, and I had Several Questions! All were answered cheerfully and promptly. I will definitely use Longshot Rails on my HP Carbines! I will add pix to this thread when I get the rails on the Suby! But for now, here is my rail set, including the NEW Custom 8" bottom rail, the undeRGRound Special Bottom Rail! (my name for that, but hey, LS can use it!) Thanks Melanie and Jerry!