Isn't that what a background check is for?
No Guns No Money
http://equalforce.org/documents/nogunnomoney_nostate.pdf
I copied this off another forum where you can print these out and pass em to all these stores that don't allow CCW I printed some up on card stock I had and cut them into business card size
NOTE you copy the first part then turn the paper over and copy the 2nd part on the back. It will fit
I copied this off another forum where you can print these out and pass em to all these stores that don't allow CCW I printed some up on card stock I had and cut them into business card size
NOTE you copy the first part then turn the paper over and copy the 2nd part on the back. It will fit
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Well ya BUT if someone uses your name and info and get a CCW that way without the state checking on and making sure they say who they really are will you be happy. ID theft happens all the time, THIS is the wrong time for it to happen don't you think?Isn't that what a background check is for?
And I have seen some fools from NH that shouldn't even own a firearm let alone carry one concealed.... Not many just some.I would have to remove the bottom two lines. No prints and no mandatory classes in NH.
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Those kind of people exist everywhere, not just in one particular state. As a former resident of the communistwealth of Massachusetts, there are many, many idiots in that state that legally own guns, but shouldn't. They have to pay fees, take classes, etc. and they still are foolish in their knowledge and handling of firearms.And I have seen some fools from NH that shouldn't even own a firearm let alone carry one concealed.... Not many just some.
The Bill of Rights does not preclude the dumb from ownership. That is both good and bad.
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The states that require fingerprints do this for a reason, and the reason is NOT Identity theft. That is just the silliest thing I have ever heard. What felon would ever try to get a legal CCW????????? I was allways under the assumption that felons don't obey laws !
"my fingerprints are on file with the authorities" should not be a statement of pride, considering that the only other fingerprints "on file" with the authorities are the criminals.
"my fingerprints are on file with the authorities" should not be a statement of pride, considering that the only other fingerprints "on file" with the authorities are the criminals.
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I can't say I understand the fingerprint want or need either. My fingerprints are not on file, as I am not a criminal. If someone pretends to be me to try and get a CCW and is fingerprinted, they will have nothing to compare the fingerprints to. Perhaps using the fingerprints to scan and make sure nothing come up on those prints, but not keep them on file. That will do nothing.
I suggest you get your head out of your comic book and learn new stuff A felon WILL steal an ID to get legal documentation as will illegal immigrants. Drivers license's, Social security cards, and yes even a CCW will be a good source for LEGAL documentation.The states that require fingerprints do this for a reason, and the reason is NOT Identity theft. That is just the silliest thing I have ever heard. What felon would ever try to get a legal CCW????????? I was allways under the assumption that felons don't obey laws !
"my fingerprints are on file with the authorities" should not be a statement of pride, considering that the only other fingerprints "on file" with the authorities are the criminals.
My fingerprints being on file in my state means NOTHING I am a licensed ARMED security guard here in SC as well as have been a licensed guard in NH where I had to submit my fingerprints for that as well. I don't have to hang my head in shame cause of it. I am quite happy with it and I don't care if they are on file.
The days of "only felons or criminals fingerprints are on file" are way over even children now days should be fingerprinted as a source of ID if they are kidnapped or die unexpectedly. Sometimes ALL it is is a fingerprint that will ID a dead person.
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I think I will keep my "head in a comic book" and also keep my fingerprints to myself. Personally I care more about ID theft concerning my credit card than a CCW.
shooter z, You state you have been fingerprinted as part of your job, a voluntary thing for sure, you chose to take the job. A state requiring it for a CCW is a whole nother ballgame.By every comment you make you must be for the national ID, right?
shooter z, You state you have been fingerprinted as part of your job, a voluntary thing for sure, you chose to take the job. A state requiring it for a CCW is a whole nother ballgame.By every comment you make you must be for the national ID, right?
Don't teachers have to be fingerprinted? I thought my mom did when she started...."my fingerprints are on file with the authorities" should not be a statement of pride, considering that the only other fingerprints "on file" with the authorities are the criminals.
You chose to take the job, you chose to get the CCW. How is that much different, exactly?You state you have been fingerprinted as part of your job, a voluntary thing for sure, you chose to take the job. A state requiring it for a CCW is a whole nother ballgame.
Hells bells, when I was 18 I was fingerprinted and actually investigated by the FBI to receive a Secret clearance in the Army because my job required me to have that clearance.
I didn't fuss about it then, and cant see what the big deal is now.
They (feds and local) want to make sure that you are who you are, with the nut jobs running around these days, do you blame them?
I didn't fuss about it then, and cant see what the big deal is now.
They (feds and local) want to make sure that you are who you are, with the nut jobs running around these days, do you blame them?
BTW welcome to the forum Sniper 995
If you enjoy a good errrrrrr discussion, yeah thats the word, go here and join and I promise you that there are guys there that will argue errrrrrr I mean discuss with you for days where the sun rises and sets or what is the first letter of the alphabet
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http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showforum=51
If you enjoy a good errrrrrr discussion, yeah thats the word, go here and join and I promise you that there are guys there that will argue errrrrrr I mean discuss with you for days where the sun rises and sets or what is the first letter of the alphabet
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I guess that is what I don't understand. If I have never been finger printed, then they have nothing to compare the fingerprints to. How do they verify that it is me if there is no comparison?They (feds and local) want to make sure that you are who you are, with the nut jobs running around these days, do you blame them?
In my case the FBI contacted friends and family and people in my past and verified who I was and if I was of good character.
They probably do not go that far for a CCW permit, but surely they have some method of positive ID?
They probably do not go that far for a CCW permit, but surely they have some method of positive ID?
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Been on that forum for a long time, great place too.If you enjoy a good errrrrrr discussion, yeah thats the word, go here and join and I promise you that there are guys there that will argue errrrrrr I mean discuss with you for days where the sun rises and sets or what is the first letter of the alphabet
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I had to go to the police station with my license and proof of residency, other than driver's license. They took a copy of my license after inspection and took a photograph of me. Then I signed the application in front of them and they told me I would hear from them within 10 days. 4 days later, I received my unrestricted CCW permit. I do not know what they actually do, but I live in a town of almost 30,000 people, so they must do something for verification. Maybe between the license and the photo when I put in my application?In my case the FBI contacted friends and family and people in my past and verified who I was and if I was of good character.
They probably do not go that far for a CCW permit, but surely they have some method of positive ID?
G
Here in Pa you go to the sheriffs department, they do a instant background check while you fill out the application. once you are done they take your picture and the Photo id machine spits out your CCW. About a 10 minute thing. Except philadelphia, they got their own way of doing things, alot of good it has done them, very restrictive of legal guns, high crime, most corrupt police department in the country.
Well here is the requirements that I know of for National IDI think I will keep my "head in a comic book" and also keep my fingerprints to myself. Personally I care more about ID theft concerning my credit card than a CCW.
shooter z, You state you have been fingerprinted as part of your job, a voluntary thing for sure, you chose to take the job. A state requiring it for a CCW is a whole nother ballgame.By every comment you make you must be for the national ID, right?
(1) The person's full legal name.
(2) The person's date of birth.
(3) The person's gender.
(4) The person's driver's license or identification card number.
(5) A digital photograph of the person.
(6) The person's address of principle residence.
(7) The person's signature.
(8) Physical security features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for fraudulent purposes.
(9) A common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements
My South Carolina DL and Security Guard License as well as probably the CCW issued by this state just about cover all of it except for gender. If THIS is all required for a national id oh well I don't know what they else they want.
If you have gone all this time I fugure you must be 18 or above then you are doing good but your ideas of fingerprints tells me either you are very misinformed or are just a paranoid or both
The police will VOLUNTEERILY fingerprint you and let you or your family keep the cards in the event you have an accident or something happens and they need to identify you So don't be afraid they will not keep you on file and be looking for you UNLESS you're allready wanted
I have been fingerprinted several times in my life when I got my SG licence in NH abd SC when I joined a fire department in 78 and again when I joined an Emergency mangagement agency only for the purpose for identification in the event of a disaster and I perished they could have an easier way of identifying my body. You make it sound like a conspirocy or something
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