Normal to have to tap magazine after pulling back charging handle?

Discussion in 'Hi-Point Carbines' started by Nutrend, Jul 31, 2020.

  1. Nutrend

    Nutrend Member

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    Is this normal procedure?

    1. Insert new magazine
    2. Pull back charging handle
    3. Bolt stays stuck open
    4. I tap or pull on the bottom of the magazine and then the round fully feeds and the bolt closes

    I feel like something is wrong and the round is getting stuck when I pull the charging handle

    Or is "normal procedure" to pull the charging handle back, then push it forward to load the round fully?

    I thought it was supposed to feed fully just by pulling back the charging handle and releasing?
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2020
  2. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    This is not uncommon when chambering the first round from a fully loaded magazine. I think the bolt/slide catch is engaging a little when the magazine is full. It happens with my JHP45 all the time.
     

  3. Nutrend

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    Any way to fix it? This is a new gun...maybe it gets better with wear?
     
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  4. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    You “ride” the charging handle on the way forward or do you yank it back and release like you mean it?
     
  5. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    It has gotten better as I've used my JHP45 more. It isn't fully resolved, though. I think it's just a quirk with the design. I don't have to tap the slide everytime, anymore, though.
     
  6. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

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    Does it still do it if you load one less round in the mag?
     
  7. Nutrend

    Nutrend Member

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    So I just yank the charging handle back and let go, and sometimes it returns to the forward closed position by itself. Other times it sticks in the open position.
     
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  8. Nutrend

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    Good question - I will have to check and get back to you
     
  9. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    This may be a breaking in issue.
    Don’t have a carbine myself.
     
  10. ajole

    ajole Supporting Member

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    None of my Hi Points does that. The C9 when new did it a few times, and one JCP mag did it until I tweaked the lips a bit.
    But it’s not normal, it shouldn’t happen. Break in should fix it, other ammo could fix it, or tweaking the magazine lips slightly wider could fix it.
    Start with the first two.
     
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  11. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    All these new carbine owners look alike! :lol:
     
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  12. Nutrend

    Nutrend Member

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    I am the OP -- I bought a new 995TS
     
  13. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    I had you confused with someone else..........my bad........... :lol:
     
  14. AZLarry

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    What ammo are you using?
    Hollow points could be a problem.

    Is is clean and lubed properly?
    Some folks don't think a new firearm needs to be cleaned and lubed, but they usually need both.

    Next time this happens, remove and examine the round. See if there are any deep scratches or gouges that may be caused by a sharp edge on the feed lips on the magazine.
     
  15. Nutrend

    Nutrend Member

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    I just bought the gun -- in fact I have yet to fire it. I am using hollow points. I haven't cleaned and lubed the gun.

    When I insert a magazine and pull back the charging handle I can see the bullet is sitting low in the chamber. Only once I push up on the magazine (or sometimes push the charging handle forward manually) does the bullet feed all the way up.
     
  16. AZLarry

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    First, take a good look at your feed ramp to see if it's nice and smooth.

    Then try some round nose ammo.

    Then try locking the bolt back, then inserting the mag.
    Then let the bolt fly home.

    How many mags do you have? Is it the same with each one?

    We'll get this figured out pretty quick.
     
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  17. HPlover

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    This is probably not the issue, but the HP stock mags are a little tricky to get seated completely in the mag well. They are almost recessed. Be sure mag is fully seated before using charging handle.

    Also be sure when loading mags that rounds are continuously being oriented nose up as you put them in. Hitting mag baseplate on a flat surface, or pressing down on rim of prior round can help with this.

    As others have said, some hollow points are finicky to feed.
     
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  18. Nutrend

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    So it looks like the bullet before I push the bolt forward is oriented slightly nose down. When I manually push the bolt forward it locks into proper position. This seems to happen with all 3 mags (2x 10 and the 20 round redball)

    With the redball after I load the magainze and pull back on the bolt it gets stuck, but if I pull down on the magazine the bolt clicks back into place
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2020
  19. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    1. Maybe you shouldn't be cycling live ammo just yet.
    HP uses the firing pin as the ejector.
    Chances are slim but a round could go off when cycled aggressively.
    Use snap caps to function check.
    2. Leave the mags loaded and go shoot the gun.
     
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  20. caljac51

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    I never insert a full magazine on a closed bolt. Try locking back the bolt, then insert the magazine, then release the bolt to let it fly home. This may help.
     
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