I took the kids to a gun show this afternoon (C & E show in Dulles Convention Center), looking for a C9. The first vendor I found that had some HPs, didnt have a C9, but had some 40s and 45s. He said he brought a dozen C9s to the show, and they were all sold on Friday!!! The show is open 3-8 on Friday, so it looks like the HP is quickly gaining in popularity considering how quickly they were sold. Anyway, while I was standing there looking at the 40 and 45, some goober came up and tried to strike up a derating conversation about the HPs to the dealer. He said something like "you get what you pay for", usual gun snob BS. The dealer basically told him not really, if you want a good range gun or a good plinker, they're a great gun for the money. Of course, I already knew that. :wink: BTW, I was able to find a C9, I'll post it up later. I got my C9, my oldest bought a small Samurai sword, and I picked up a pocket knife for my youngest's upcoming BD. Now just gotta sneak them past momma.