Never started a thread here before. I haven't actually been around in awhile. My first generation 9mm Hi Point carbine was my first purchased rifle. I still have it. Just a heads up. I saw a post on Facebook today that pissed me off. https://www.facebook.com/ShieldTactical?fref=nf They posted a YouTube video they think is funny. http://youtu.be/GFV2vQPTQy4 I'd like to see them receive some reaction from actual Hi Point experts.