after discusing with other mods, we left this one open until it degenrates into poo slinging. keep it civil and it stays.
Don't believe the above!! They are not worth it. Just leave them right there at the gunshop. I'll go ahead and buy them all up so no one feels robbed. I have saved several of the poorly informed from a couple carbines now and will save people from buying a few of the pistols too.If you spend some time around here you will not hear anyone say they are crap. Read all the posts and see what members here who actually have them and use them have to say. As is mentioned many times in this forum are gun types called snobs. These are people who have no first hand experience with these weapons and just because they are inexpensive look down their noses at them. Are they perfect ? No. Are they crap ? No. What they are are inexpensive pistols that simply go bang when you pull the trigger. They are not competion quality guns but I will say they are pretty accurate and will shoot better than most people can aim. Why not see for yourself. They can be had from 100 buck to 180 or so. Go get one and then you tell us why we all like them.