Planned fallen soldier monument...controversy over prominence of gun

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  1. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/15/planned-fallen-soldier-monument-in-mich-veterans-memorial-causes-controversy/

    A planned monument that would serve as the final piece of a veterans’ memorial in a Detroit suburb has caused controversy over its prominent depiction of a military rifle, the Detroit Free Press reported.

    Bear Hall, the chairman of the local chapter of Friends of American Veterans in Milford, Mich. earlier this month proposed placing a sculpture of the battlefield cross at the end of a brick walkway leading out of the present veterans’ memorial.

    The battlefield cross-- a military helmet adorned with dog tags perched on the stock of an automatic rifle, its barrel pointing downward into a pair of combat boots --has been used by those in active duty as far back as the Civil War to memorialize fallen soldiers.

    Hall told the Free Press he approached the village council’s parks and recreation commission about adding the just-over four-foot sculpture of the battlefield cross on a four-foot base. He said was told by some council members that the icon might not be appropriate as a centerpiece for the park.

    "There was some concern from a couple of members regarding the specific memorial that’s proposed. Specifically, the gun," Milford Village Manager Christian Wuerth told the Free Press, "They understood the history and meaning of it; they just didn’t feel it was appropriate for that specific location."

    "Being a veteran, I want to see a monument there, yes," Councilman Tom Nader said, according to the Free Press, "I just don’t think this is the proper one."

    One council member, Jennifer Frankford, disagreed with Nader.

    "If it wasn’t for the boots and the gun and the helmet, we wouldn’t have all the freedoms we have," she said.

    The issue will be further debated at the council's April 20 meeting, to which Hall planned to bring "a lot of people."

    Hall said he would be open to changing the fallen soldiers memorial’s planned location, but remained steadfast on the content of the monument.

    "If [the council] doesn’t want it as a focal point, that’s fine, but we don’t want some ‘foofoo’ fountain either," he told the paper.

    Hall, who served in the U.S. Marine Corps, added that a number of veterans he’s spoken with are not happy with some of the council’s objections.

    "Everyone’s thinking the same thing we’re thinking: We didn’t win the war by throwing sticks and stones," he said.

    "If people are worried about their kids seeing a gun, take away their video games… don’t let them hunt," Ron Nevorski, another Friends of American Veterans member told the Free Press.
     
  2. planosteve

    planosteve Lifetime Supporter

    You have got to be kidding me, although I do like the veterans responses.
     

  3. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    The "vet" never served a day in combat I bet. Probably was a paper pusher.
     
  4. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Is there some petition somewhere we can sign which reads?:

    "Honorable Councilman Nader and Council Members who agree with his position.,

    Please stand up straight and tall. ...then bend over, grab your ankles, and shove it up your <ahem>"​

    I'm so sick of this irrational left wing phobia.

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  5. Think1st

    Think1st Supporting Member

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    Their logic seems to be that the mier image of a firearm is inappropriate for public places, even if it is to honor fallen Soldiers. Even if the rifle is used, in association with someone authorized by The State, to carry it in furtherance of its policies, the council believes that it is inappropriate.

    Hmmm... Using their logic, then, police should not be armed in that location, either. I very much doubt that they would prohibit police from being armed in that park, though. Therefore, if guns are not inappropriate in the park, when the police carry them, then the image of a gun should not be inappropriate for use with a fallen Soldiers memorial.

    Edit: As far as the alleged vet goes, I want to see his service record. I agree with Moonz that he was a pogue if he even served, but I still want that weaselly little piece of Leftist-Authoritarian vomit to prove that he was ever even in the military. No real veteran would take such a position.
     
  6. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    I wish I was a millionaire right now..... I'd pay for a row of soldiers' crosses, with a soldier standing with his head hung in sorrow, and a rifle slung across his shoulder, turning away to answer the call again.... What the flying F is wrong with these jackwagon PC sob's?...... How literally idiotic that cowardly sh*theads terrified at the mere sight of a gun, are deemed more worthy of protection from offense, than the men and women who held a gun, and stood on the wall, allowing their simpering asses to sleep easy..... I don't care to return to McCarthyism, but I'm more than ready for elected leaders to start telling these people to kiss a fat babies ass!.....
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