[vallen]

I'm a 2 and a 3.

As far as #1, I do think it is a right, however, there are enough idiots in this world for me to ask for an IQ test as part of the CHL process.
It's bad enough they have drivers licenses.
I'll raise you one poll entry: Carry to defend yourself against some dumba$$ who is also carrying.

Was it always this bad? or am i just getting older and grumpy? I think the problem is 'respect for guns' isn't being taught as it was when I was a kid.

 

[vallen]

Yeah, I was grumpy. But I do have to note there are some idiots with CHL permits.

In My CHL class there were 9 people. 7 were normal (including me) the other 2 were complete idiots that I'd rather not be next to on the range.
My point is: Just because they have a CHL, doesn't make them capable.
Lot's of nutjobs out there with $240. Be safe and respect guns.