Poor man's home defense

Discussion in 'Hi-Point Pistols' started by Silverayne, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Moestooge

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    You willingness to do honest work for a low wage is appreciated, Silver. You've got backbone.
     

  2. Well it seems he now has a rifle for defense and that is a huge step in protection. Make sure your child cant get to it.

    I would have donated money but wouldn't feel right lending him a gun until I got to know him...that could take years.

    I travel the entire state of KY for my job. From the larger Northern cities to the lakes of the west to the "hollers" of the east, I've been there. If I'm correct, this guy is from the eastern part. Appalachian country is very beautiful, but can be depressing at the same time. It has some of the nicest people in the world, but can be a scary place to be when pulling up in a vehicle with official seals on the door. Talking about getting eyeballed.

    I wish the best to ya my fellow KY'ian. Ever need to chat, lemme know.

    Go Blue!!
     

  3. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Good. It's a decent start.

    As I wrote from the beginning, this is someone you know. Figure out who has an ax to grind with you.

    There are no feet in the pictures. This is in direct violation of forum policy which requires all photos of new rifles, particularly when photographed placed on the floor, must include at least the toes of the photographer's feet. Your photographs are rejected! :rofl:

    My pleasure.

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  4. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Bake an apply pie and take it over to them and have a chat.

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  5. Hansj3

    Hansj3 Supporting Member

    My vote would be brownies or cookies. Easier to make en masse. Fantastic idea though
     
  6. ajole

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    That Mossberg does look clean. With the ammo, and under your needs, I think you did OK price wise.:)
     
  7. Galloway6

    Galloway6 Possum Lodge Member Supporting Member

    you could try a game/trail camera for the outdoor troubles.
     
  8. MadJack

    MadJack Supporting Member

    You say that the area is known for drugs/pills, maybe someone was storing their supply there while the house was unoccupied. Talk with the local Law Enforcement agency, see about having the Canine talk a walk through (as long as you don't have anything illegal!).

    As mentioned before, get to know your immediate neighbors and the Game/Trail camera is an excellent idea, if you can borrow one.
     
  9. Outlaw

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    Dang it, I can't get to the pic. What model rifle is it? Just remember what I said in an earlier post about being outside at night with a gun. You will be in dangerous territory. One wayward shot and one wrong unarmed person hit or killed and you go straight to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Straight to jail. Bye bye mommy and baby for a long, long time. I suggest you think real hard about this. I know it's gettin to ya, but at this stage your much better off getting the local sheriff more involved looking for tracks, fingerprints and any other evidence. At this point you've been through enough crap that I would think you'd have their interest. You might even tell them you've purchased a firearm to protect your family for you fear for their lives. This should peak their interest. If not, at least you advised them of a potential outcome if they don't get involved.
    To me, it's sounding more and more like young punks than anything else. There's a good possibility they won't be armed. Ya never know. You go popping off rounds at an unarmed person on your property or not, odds are you will be in deep doo doo. Think real hard before doing anything stupid. Just sayin ;)
     
  10. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    Did somebody else want to live in that house?
    How did you go about renting it?
    Are you in the hillbilly boonies and you're not considered "one of them"?
    You too close to a still or a stash?
    What's going on here?
     
  11. ajole

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    He's got a Mossberg 702 Plinkster.
     
  12. Silverayne

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    Hey all, I did go out and talk with some of the neighbors in the area, looks like im not the only one, theres been 2 other full break-ins within about 5 miles of my house, police are finally involved and today alone saw a sheriffs patrol 4 times from 3pm until 9pm when i left for work, this makes me feel much better. The neighbors within my immediate area all seem very nice, country nice to be exact but not fake. One of them told me about the other break-ins, one of which is family to a county official hence the sudden police interest (works for me).

    As for me being country, yeah im from an adjacent county, grew up there all my life and yes its eastern KY not too far from wv. Im not in a bad part of the area, mostly older folk only one neighbor has kids, couple of them have grown kids i call them, that go to a local college.

    As for me using the rifle outside of the house, i would never fire at anyone unless i had no choice. If they came running at me swinging a knife or something then yeah ill fire but unless they break in to my home i wouldnt. I was raised around firearms and have a ton of respect for what they can do, plus i would rather not be the instrument of some stupid kids doom, as angry as i have been i still have no desire to take a human life unless im forced too. It does help knowing that if it came to that at least i am armed. I am hoping that either the police presence will scare them off or they will catch them and arrest them.

    One of the neighbors i talked with today suggested the trail cam idea as well so +1 for that, my next payday im gonna hit up the ebay and see about getting one or two if they are not expensive, a face would be really nice to go with all the trouble they have caused.
     
  13. Silverayne

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    Ohh as for the house, it was rented before us but after the PO moved out the owner decided to sell it, a family member of my wifes (Aunt) told her she had seen it in the paper, she lives in the same county as we do. We talked with the guy and he sold it to us on contract, it will take us about 10 years to pay it off but its ours at least.

    Ive been all over this place, its not a super huge piece of property but its decent, we are in the country up a hollow about a mile, about 15 mins from the city. That I know of it wasnt empty very long, the previous renters moved out in june and we moved in in Oct.
     
  14. Asher1

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    Sorry to read about your issues, sounds like your making good choices and taking the correct steps. I have used game cameras and they work great, I recommend them over security cameras... You can mount the game camera outside on a gutter or eve point away from the house, maybe toward your car... If you have a home computer, look at getting a SD card called Eye-Fi, this card gives you Wi-Fi between your computer and your camera. If you ever get internet you can set up a photobucket account and have it send you a e-mail anytime a picture is loaded... So the camera shoots a picture, sends it to the computer, computer automatically loads it to the net, you get a message and can view it from anywhere... Then you get to decide your needed action (threat or not)...

    If you do go the game cam route, make sure you get one that has IR flash. That way you don't have a strobe flash that will give away the camera location.

    The only problem I see is if this guy somehow finds out your getting pictures of him, he will go one of two ways... 1) he will run off into the shadows and hopefully go away; or, 2)he will become much more aggressive.... just be prepared..

    I'm praying for you/your families security, good luck...
     
  15. rmuniz9336

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    Just a thought, but look at shotguns, you can often times pick them up rather cheaply. Also, if you don't have them, get a couple of dogs and good external lighting is a must for keeping prowlers away.
     
  16. Asher1

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    Something else I thought about after I went to bed... Since you have a lighting issue...

    Do you have a decent tactical style flash light?

    I have had really good luck with UltraFire flash lights from Amazon, they aren't SureFires, but they are very bright and VERY cheap... Make sure to get the ones that run on 18650 batteries. If you shop around you can usually buy them in a pair or just get a couple. Give one to the wife, keep one on yourself, and mount one to the barrel of that .22 using a cheap mount you can get off the self from walmart... The good thing about the lights is that they can also run on CR123 disposable batteries in a pinch (but that's the expensive route).

    The lights I have are:

    UltraFire C8 (to big of a reflector for pocket carry, but great for a nightstand)

    UltraFire WF-502B, great light fits in pocket very well and tough as heck. I use one of these everyday, beat the heck out of it, lost it in the river/under water for 2 days, found it and it still works...

    UltraFire XD-98s, this is the light I like the most because of the adjustable focus and very wide beam pattern that can light up a small room, but I am not sure it would be as waterproof as the 502B...

    TrustFire TR-3T6, not an impressive light (don't let size fool you), my C8 shines almost as bright and 1/2 the size.. this one might make a better club then a light...

    If it was me and I could afford it, I would get a pair of XD-98s give one to the wife, mount the other on the gun, then grab a WF-502B to keep on yourself at all times..

    This is what I called my XD-98s:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CE1EFCM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

    Here is my WF-502B:
    http://www.amazon.com/UltraFireĀ®-WF..._23_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0CENNN3ER20JRBWEN5BP

    Batteries for the lights:
    http://www.amazon.com/Ultrafire-Li-...bxgy_60_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1F9XS2ZMKK47N9R412J6


    The nice thing about these tac lights is the brightness and strobe feature... If you walk into a dark room with someone in there, you light them up (and your still dark), really puts the advantage in your favor and buys you an extra second to make a decision on your response.
     
  17. missiledefender

    missiledefender Supporting Member

    Get a nice, Childs Sized Aluminum Baseball Bat...for now. Then save for the Hi Point.

    Nothing says: Get away from my property---like, the "TINK" noise from hitting some dirt bag with it.

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  18. VinnieD

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    The 702 plinkster is a good gun. I've had one before (though sold it recently due to lack of ammo in my area). Accurate, low recoiling, and reliable. Give it a few drops of oil, and it won't fail you.

    I'd advise reinforcing your entry points. It doesn't have to be an expensive prospect either. The window can be sealed shut by driving a screw through the frame along which it slides, and is easily reversed.

    Doors also can be strengthened. The place where an exterior door usually fails is the frame, not the door its self. The strikeplate which the door locks into is usually held to the frame with very short quarter inch screws. With a solid kick the screws will either strip out or take a thin layer of the frame with them. Take those out and replace them with 4 inch deck screws. Those should be long enough to go entirely through the door frame and secure to the stud. It makes the door much stronger and does a lot more than a simple deadbolt. After all it doesn't matter how good a lock is if it's not mounted to something solid.
     
  19. Browning 9 Guy

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    Agree with all of the above. Now as far as the gun. If you're faced with an intrusion in progress, abide by the USMC rule which is to fire at the first good opportunity. Aim for the face and throat. Keep firing until he's no longer a threat. Protect your loved ones.
     
  20. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    Shooting is and should always be the last resort.
    In the dark in a state of panic don't go for the smallest target, go for the largest. Center mass.