possible 4595 Bullpup

Discussion in 'Hi-Point Carbines' started by cballs, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. cballs

    cballs Member

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    So I am in the market for a 45 cal carbine. vector, hk, beretta are all out too much money for ten round capacity (thanks Hawaii)... no sub2k cuz no .45 cal (to match 1911). So that brings me to the 4595.

    This quote from "Paint jobs, mods, etc..."
    http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.co...ds-favorite-carbine-pics-268615/index142.html

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    has got me thinking. I would love to brainstorm with others about this and come up with a solution. and also maybe shaving off some of the heavy 7lbs this carbine weighs in at.
     
  2. cballs

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    I think the first picture would be the more realistic way of approaching the build. Leave the grip, mold it into the stock, and re-use the buttstock from the ts. It could just be welded back on using some plastic welding techniques.

    the trigger could be hid by welding or screwing on plates over the trigger guard. and the actuator to press the trig could run through the existing stock.
     

  3. cballs

    cballs Member

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    how about this...

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  4. Dreamthief

    Dreamthief Senior Member Member

    Much better.
     
  5. cballs

    cballs Member

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    does anyone have any pics of the trigger group? Seer. hammer, etc...

    Also is the barrel free-floating or is it supported throughout the fore-end?

    Can it be free floating? In other words is the barrel attached in such a way that the fore-end could be eliminated altogether?

    Where is the serial number, we couldn't lose that...
     
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  6. Dreamthief

    Dreamthief Senior Member Member

    Better this way though. Sorry for the iPad quality. Maybe make the buttstock hold three or four mags

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  7. cballs

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    yeah I thought the same thing, solid panel but hollow in the middle with a way to store mags there... like a hollow core door with mags in it :)
     
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  8. Dreamthief

    Dreamthief Senior Member Member

    Receiver cover right?
     
  9. cballs

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    i don't quite understand...
     
  10. that look awesome. looks like youd have to be really good at molding/ welding plastics to be able to pull this off. the hp carbines are great guns to try this with considering their low price tag.
     
  11. ill get you picks of the insides tomorrow if nobody has by then. my camera got borrowed.
     
  12. cballs

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    that'd be awesome, thanks. could you snap a photo inside of the for-end where the barrel would be at?

    also how long is the buttstock to the back of the upper metal housing? It's only possible to shave off 6 inches since a rifle must be over all length of 26 inches.
     
  13. Ranger-6

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    The so called assault weapons already look scary to the liberal cowards. Can you just imagine the flip they are going to go thru when they see what you have here?
     
  14. in hope that you might come up with something ill get you the pics and measurements tomorrow. if you need any other measurements just post. i only have a simple tape measure to use right now all my more accurate measuring tools are being borrowed.

    if i spend my time helping you i expect you to come up with something and post pics on this forum;):D
     
  15. Irish

    Irish Well-Known Member

    Photoshop level: EPIC
     
  16. heres your pics

    length from the end of the recoil pad to the back of the metal housing is 10.5"

    if you need more pics or i didnt get what you needed in these pics or their not clear enough just ask. this is the best camera i have tho.

    as to if the barrel is free floating the only thing i can see that holds the barrel is a plastic ring that holds it to the action as shown in the last couple pics. other than that it just sit in that groove in the stock
     

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  17. heres a clearer pic of the trigger mech
     

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  18. cballs

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    i bet they would. "assault weapons" hmm, i guess we should ban drunken fists too!!! or maybe put a 10 round punch maximum on 'em. (they are sure smart)...
     
  19. cballs

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    thanks for the pics, they are good. It looks as though we could only shorten the stock to the middle of the cheek rest. Still 6 inches though. The trigger is simple and interesting, to say the least.

    as far as the barrel goes in the fore-end, do those little rings/ribs on the inside touch the barrel, or does the barrel float through?
     
  20. cballs

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    a revised more practical build... although it would have to be a different grip and trigger...

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