agreed! I got lots of brass though. There is really only one local range (unless you count all the signs people tend to shoot. Anyways i stop by there every night on the way home from work. I uassually get at least a grocery bag full sometime more. Just depends on the day and how much time i want to spend. BTW Primal I got a bucket of 50AE brass i am saving for ya. Its mainly speer but it is still good stuff.Right now it's hit or miss to find any kind of reloading components, primers, powder or brass.