[995Rookie]

I am new to this whole re-loading thing...and actually i dont plan on re-loading much at all because i dont shoot that much. But i do have some questions for you experts out there.

I just recently made a deal with the local NRA range out here in my hometown...they are going to allow me to go out to the range and pick up all the brass that is left laying around...which i went out last night and amidst all the snow and mud i was able to grab about 300+ rds in about 20 minutes...I plan on going about once a week when i go for my weekly shooting with the guys and just grabbing what i can. I then bring it home and clean it up a bit and divide it out into the respective calibers.

The real question is how much is brass going for? (Its all once fired obviously) If someone could help me out with some prices whether it be per casing or by the 100.

I went to the only guy in town who sells brass and he had prices like this:
9mm = .07 casing
.40 = .08 " "
.45 = .10 " "
7.62x39 = $10 per 60
.223 = .06 casing
.30-06 = .12 casing

those were the ones i found the majority of so i got those prices. He gives better prices for buying in bulk but i will prob just be selling by the 100 so i am looking for general pricing.

Thanks!

 

[panoz77]

Did you research the laws and regs for ammo reloading for general retail sales? Also, are you aware of the liability issues associated with selling reloaded ammunition? Just an FYI, you might want to check into that.

He gives better prices for buying in bulk but i will prob just be selling by the 100 so i am looking for general pricing.

Thanks!

http://www.atf.treas.gov/faqs.htm

(A4) What kinds of ammunition are covered by the GCA? [Back]
Ammunition includes cartridge cases, primers, bullets or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm other than an antique firearm.
Items NOT covered include blank ammunition, tear gas ammunition, pellets and nonmetallic shotgun hulls without primers.
Generally, no records are required for ammunition transactions. However, information about the disposition of armor piercing ammunition is required to be entered into a record by importers, manufacturers, and collectors.
A license is not required for dealers in ammunition only.
[18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17) and 922(b)(5), 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.125]

(F11) Is a license required to engage in the business of selling small arms ammunition? [Back] No. A license is not required for a dealer in ammunition only, but a manufacturer or an importer of ammunition must be licensed.
[18 U.S.C. 922 (a)(1)(B)]

(H3) May a person licensed as a manufacturer of firearms also manufacture ammunition? [Back]
Yes. The person may also manufacture ammunition (not including destructive device ammunition or armor piercing ammunition) without obtaining a separate license as a manufacturer of ammunition.

(H4) Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer? [Back]
Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]

 

[PrimalSeal]

Great information Panoz! I think he was asking about the prices for selling just the brass though.

Honestly, those brass prices are HIGH for what brass is going for locally in my area. Rifle or pistol brass is just about the same. Pistol is $0.03 per casing and rifle is $0.05 per casing. The price for brass to recycle has actually come down in the last few months, so check into that as well. What I would do is find out how much it goes for per pound, find out how many cases are in a pound and then divide that number into the price per pound, just as a measure to be fair.

I'm not saying that's how you should do it, just how I'd do it if it were me.

 

[995Rookie]

Thanks for the info panoz! I dont plan on doing my own re-loads, i just want to sell the brass to people who do reload. From what i read there shouldnt be a problem with that.

Primal - I will have to check into selling it by the pound. I thought about selling it locally or maybe just going to the pawn shop and asking what he would give me for it. He does his own reloads and also sells brass so i might make enough their to cover my ammo prices for the occassional range trip.

 

[PrimalSeal]

Honestly, what I would do is collect the stuff and hoard it. Brass is getting harder and harder to come by as more and more ranges are taking it to the recycle center and selling it for extra cash. Not to mention, if you do decide to do some reloading, you'll always have a surplus of brass. Just my $0.02.

 

[995Rookie]

That will prob be what happens...i will put it up for sale and i will never get rid of it so i will hold onto it and have it when everyone is looking for it

 

[panoz77]

It makes a good trade and barter item as well.

 

[.45acp]

+1 to what Primal said in both his posts.

The prices he mentions are what I'm seeing and if you're getting it free then his pricing sounds reasonable.
I also agree about hanging on to at least a good percentage of it yourself.

 

[heartbeat]

i just bought 500 .45acp brass at the gun show in houston for 20.00. he also had 9mm luger for 35.00/1000. hope that helps.

 

[Silicon Wolverine]

too high. hunt around the internet and you can find WAY better deals.

SW

 

[PrimalSeal]

That sounds about right for brand new brass for someone trying to load up some match grade stuff. For once fired, that's high as all get out.

 

[SteveD]

Some of those priceses are very low for my neck of the woods. If you could find brass the price is about..
9mm .05
40 s&w .1
45 .15+
223 name your price
this is what it's like around here

 

[CoyoteUGLY]

Honestly, what I would do is collect the stuff and hoard it. Brass is getting harder and harder to come by as more and more ranges are taking it to the recycle center and selling it for extra cash. Not to mention, if you do decide to do some reloading, you'll always have a surplus of brass. Just my $0.02.

+1 here too. & if ya need help hoarding it lemme know 995
There's always make room for more brass - it's the new gold in my book.

 

[LoneWolf57]

I'd be willing to buy any 7.62x39 casing that are boxer primed. Have no use for the Berdan primed ones.

 

[bass3587]

What is the problem with Berdan cases?

 

[CoyoteUGLY]

What is the problem with Berdan cases?

search that on HPFF & you'll find some excellent answers (that's where I learned), but in short they have an "anvil" that is part of the case instead of part of the primer. In order to reload them you need to remove that anvil so it does not interfere with the std primers we all know & use.

i've tried it w/some 7.62x39 cases & it's a pain. I'm gonna hafta invent some speacial tools but i've not set aside time to do so jus yet.

 

[PrimalSeal]

First off, you can't find berdan primers to cap them with and it takes special tools in order to decap the old primers anyway. It's a major PITA to reload berdan primed cases. It can be done, but it's difficult at best.

 

[Silicon Wolverine]

wolf makes runs of berdan primers from time to time but they are uber hard to find. brownells has all t he tools you need to do the work but expect to spend heavily.

SW

 

[LoneWolf57]

What they said!

 

[gtv]

Just in case anyone is interested in trying to reload Berdan cases, here is an interesting article:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/berdanreloading/index.asp