Recommended ammo for the J-22 / J.A.-22 pistol

Discussion in 'JA-22/J-22 .22LR' started by adam01364, May 7, 2020.

  1. Rerun

    Rerun Supporting Member

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    Stop Abusing your HP-22A's with high velocity ammo - the manual tell you to shoot only Standard Velocity ammunition.

    They'll last years.

    eldar
     
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  2. magnut

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    sure..... they will last your whole life if you dont shoot them. Mine cracked with standard velocity ammo and constant spring changes (4-500rds). One at around 3,000 and the other around 3,500. The slide crack as well. Went through that on first one I ever had when I dressed down the frame crack....on both sides. I can go on and on about the wonderful Pheonix HP22.

    My HP25 is OK so far but its only around 1,200 rounds and its had its springs beefed up. 25s dont get as much trigger time as 22s. Thats the entire point of 22lr ... cheap ammo practice.
     
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  3. undeRGRound

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    Glad I dumped mine, got retail for it. I also had the lrho followers and extra mags. Plus the extra, long barrel. The triple-redundant safeties are truly a pita and hates that most. Grrrr....
     
  4. magnut

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    The idea is great... an open slide 25acp that fits the hand well along with a 22lr version for cheap practice. Seems like it would be great. Then they decided to make it overly complicated and fragile and screwed it all up. All they had to do was scale up the Raven adapt a version to 22lr. Nope..... lets just completely abandon the greatest SNS ever made create a piece of junk.

    Oh well. This is not the first time this has happened. keltec dumped the P11 a little while back in one of the dumbest moves ever made. Hi-point will probably dump the C9 eventually just to be stupid. Seems like all the old Colt marketing gurus have been finding steady employment in the firearms industry when they should have been strung up a long time ago. Maybe they teach classes now.
     
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    I don't know what you're doing wrong, stud, but, I have more than 7,000 rounds through my HP22A with nary a problem.

    Original springs, cleaned after every trip to the range, light oil afterwards.

    Federal standard velocity .22 LR ammunition only.

    Maybe you squeeze it too tight when you hold it...?

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  6. Are the components held in place with stainless pins or with roll pins? My very early HP22 had stainless pins, and it had the old style trigger. Very nice pistol, no issues. My subsequent newer versions (roll pins) were still nice guns, but very picky and I was replacing recoil springs fairly regularly. It seems to me that the quality/strength of the recoil springs had slipped.
     
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  7. Rerun

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    I bought it six years ago.
    It was a used handgun.

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  8. I've got two HP22's and I've had no problem with mine either.

    I've mostly shot CCI Standard Velocity, but I confess I've shot a fair amount of the Federal Target that is 1200 fps, supposedly too hot.

    Maybe he is squeezing it too tight :)
     
  9. magnut

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    could be. I work with my hands a lot and have a very strong grip. Maybe I am cracking the frame just by holding it. I have to be careful when opening doors as I have accidently ripped doors from hinges before. Doesnt explain the slide failures though.

    Serioussly... 7,000 rounds on original springs with no cracking? Hang on to that baby. I would contact the monkey squad over at pheonix and tell them. You probably have the record for a single frame roundcount.

    There is a stronger recoil spring for these gun available last time I check... McBaro maybe. I think a stronger hammer spring would be a better way but whatever works.
     
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  11. Rerun

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    I'm a strong proponent of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school.

    Tampering with the original design is a path to future problems.

    eldar
     
  12. magnut

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    Great! Congratulations!
     
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  13. bumthum

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    I couldn't agree with you more. However, I think the Davis P32 and it's offspring are poorly enlarged Ravens and they managed to screw that up (although word among some is that Cobra might have done a better job with the CA32). Otherwise George Jennings seems to have been the only family member who nailed down SNS design. Or maybe the issue isn't design but rather quality control and poor tolerancing. I think any .22LR semi-auto is doomed to just be okay, but not great. I bought my daughter a Ruger SR22 and it works great, but is hardly in the same world as a <$200 plinker. The Ruger LCP II in .22LR is said to be great and might have been able to seize the title of "ersatz SNS" had it been priced more reasonably (pre-COVID, LCPs were regularly on sale around $169 in my area... I'd pay $169-$199 for an LCP II in .22LR, but not almost as much as an SR22). Speaking of Kel-Tec and the P11, I have the .40 S&W version of that pistol and it is super terrible in .40. Maybe Kel-Tec should do a .22LR version of the P32.
     
  14. Rerun

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    Sounds like putting stronger springs into your pistols leads to cracked frames.

    eldar